The Legbar Thread!

[redchicken9]

Describe your male, is he fairly dark. Is one of your hens not as salmon breasted as the other? Just curious, really don't know a thing, but was looking at the genetic eWh of a cream colored chick. Need someone else to make sense of it. Pretty sure legbars are e+, so how do you get eWh?

Above are the typical e locus down patterns, without columbian-like restrictors (except maybe ebc chick- Db). Columbian (Co) will change the appearance of e+ & eb down (usually adds eumelanin pigment, particularly on the back), but not E, ER & eWh (although eWh with Co are changed to a buff colour if sex-linked gold is present, but remain cream if sex-linked silver). Both E & ER down are indistinguishable, with variation from all black (eumelanin) to black with white as shown above.
The E locus is important to learn with poultry genetics. The common E locus alleles are:

• E (Extended Black) –black/cream day-old chicks, adults predominantly black, but may have some pheomelanin (silver or gold) areas in hackles.
• ER (Birchen)- black/cream day-old chicks, adults predominantly black, but may have more pheomelanin (silver or gold) areas in hackles, wing bows, etc.
• eWh (Dominant Wheaten)- cream day-old chicks, adult male Black Breasted Red, adult hen wheaten.
• e+ (Wild type) – dorsal stripes & eye stripe- day old chicks, adult male Black Breasted Red, adult hen salmon-breasted.
• eb (Brown) – brownish day-old chicks, adult male Black Breasted Red, adult hens brown breasted – stippling.

The E locus alleles produce the base primary colour/patterns to which varieties are build upon. The e+ allele is the wild -type, and produces the typical Black Breasted Red male- salmon breasted female phenotypes (as found in the Red Jungle Fowl, etc). All male phenotypes, except E & ER, have the Black Breasted Red colour/pattern.

 

[redchicken9]

Need to say have no idea about recessive/dominant wheaten, but there's a whole thread on backyard chickens. I read the first page, but have to move on. Anyone that can explain all this, please do. Also maybe post these chicks plus brief discussion elsewhere on this site for the breed and genetics folks. Let us know where so we can follow it. Thanks and WOW!

 

[ronott1]

Okay, what does everyone think about this? These chicks were hatched from eggs I shipped to someone. The only birds I have in this pen are 2 Legbar hens, 2 FBC Marans and a Splash Marans along with the Legbar Rooster. The eggs from this pen are kept separate from the other eggs I collect. I'm stumped as to why 3 of them are the color they are. My Legbars are from the original line that was imported. What in the world?

It takes 30 days for the Roosters semen to clear. Did you have the Legbar hens with a Rhodbar or any other rooster rooster within 30 days?

I got a cross instead of pure eggs from a Breeder recently. Very cute Easter Eggers I have now...

. The Breeder is great and I will have pure eggs soon.

 

[GaryDean26]

Jeannie,

How many other hatches have been done from your cream legbar eggs? If this hasn't come out on any of the other hatches then it would be statisitcally imposible for a resevise white, resesive wheaten, etc. to come out in 50% of this hatch if it has't come out at all on any of the other hatches from these pairings. If this is the first hatch from your cream legbars, then we may have some rare genetic going on, but if not, then we might have an unknow sire.

 

[madamwlf]

My Cream Legbar is the only rooster in that pen and has been since I got them in October last year. Impossible for an unknown sire as well. These birds can not get out and no other bird can get in. It's a completely enclosed pen. The only other person who has hatched a lighter color bird posted her pictures back on page 68 or 69 I believe.

These 6 chicks are the first ones from a 100% hatch as well. No one else has said anything about having odd chicks but I don't believe anyone else has had a 100% hatch of their eggs. We do have the other individual who just had all 6 of hers pip yesterday so we are waiting to see on those. But SpoiledChickens was telling me she can actually see the faint chipmunk stripes on 2 of them and the white dot on the head of the other. I'm completely perplexed on these.

 

[LiAuEv]

I have a regular colored boy, & now I have a yellow! If you can make it out in the picture you can see the yellow hatching from the Cream Legbar egg, & 2 more have the zipline & they look dark from what I can see, & 2 more are still pipping. The boy that has already hatched is of a standard Cream Legbar color & he is in the corner where I cannot photograph him right now. The only other eggs in the bator are a few RIR, a few Silkie, & a few OE, so if I miss any hatching I will not mistake them for others.

 

[cjwaldon]

Those are all Legbar chicks? None of them are the Legbar/Marans crosses?

 

[LiAuEv]

Yep, all the Cream Legbar eggs. Actually none of the Legbar/Marans are pipping. They are Marans hen by Cream Legbar rooster so now I am starting to worry about them being in an egg carton because I heard the egg carton hatch was not a good idea for Marans eggs. But you'd think at least one would be pipping by now. Anyhow the Cream Legbars must like whatever I am doing because it looks like I am going to have 6 Cream Legbars! Provided they all make it out of the shells okay.

 

[LiAuEv]

madamwlf,
If I were you I'd contact Greenfire Farms and see what they think of this- you might be onto something really special here! When they are all hatched & dry I will try & see if the yellows have girl/boy markings. This is so exciting!

 

[ChickenRfun257]

Ill buy 12 eggs off anyone who has them pm, me will pay above a fair price.