Another FYI on mareks vaccine....it can NOT transmit the disease.
The Legbar Thread!
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Another FYI on mareks vaccine....it can NOT transmit the disease.
IMO - I'm personally glad my birds are vaccinated for Mareks. In fact I've done it myself on my own flock and am currently waiting for a shipment to arrive so I can vaccinate the ones in the brooder. I don't' think the Legbars are more susceptible to Mareks...it happens to all chickens.
I did ask Greenfire it the birds were vaccinated to ensure they were. I would assume if they are selling them as juveniles they would have to vaccinate them since they may end up within their own flock.
Vaccination is a touchy thing with some folks but I believe in the science behind it and with all else my birds have to face it's one less worry. My thirteen acres back up to another 800 so I do think about what all my birds may come across or what may come across them.
I know that they can still get it as nothing is 100% and it would seem from my experience that stress or injury can prove detrimental in this area. The vaccine does not 'shed' the disease on to other birds and by 'maskiing' it may allow the bird immunity or the opportunity to defeat the disease. Sometime however it just does not work and the bird will succumb.
I am sorry about the birds that died but given their ratio to how many are out there it may just be an unfortunate circumstance
I did ask Greenfire it the birds were vaccinated to ensure they were. I would assume if they are selling them as juveniles they would have to vaccinate them since they may end up within their own flock.
Vaccination is a touchy thing with some folks but I believe in the science behind it and with all else my birds have to face it's one less worry. My thirteen acres back up to another 800 so I do think about what all my birds may come across or what may come across them.
I know that they can still get it as nothing is 100% and it would seem from my experience that stress or injury can prove detrimental in this area. The vaccine does not 'shed' the disease on to other birds and by 'maskiing' it may allow the bird immunity or the opportunity to defeat the disease. Sometime however it just does not work and the bird will succumb.
I am sorry about the birds that died but given their ratio to how many are out there it may just be an unfortunate circumstance
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Oh dear, didn't mean to stir up such a storm! I haven't seen Mareks before and was puzzled as to how she could have it.
To fill you in a bit, she was vaccinated as a chick as a day old and arrived to be brooded inside the house. I have just moved to a new house and neither the old or new house had any chickens on the property as long as anyone can remember. My older birds (hatched in September) were vaccinated by me at hatch and did not go outside until March as I had to hide them from the landlord in the rental and after we moved I had a neighbours dog kill a pullet the first time I took the older birds outside( it barreled straight through the electric netting without stopping and I only managed to stop it by throwing my full body weight on the dog to pin it down) and had yet to set up a secure pen. ' Until this time they had used a large indoor garage areas that had very clean dry concrete floors and no access to wild birds. She had been transferred to the teenager pen inside the garage with a group of chicks I had been unable to vaccinate. None of those chicks caught it .
When she became ill she had never been outside.
Yet her symptoms were classic Mareks and I am still puzzled.....
To fill you in a bit, she was vaccinated as a chick as a day old and arrived to be brooded inside the house. I have just moved to a new house and neither the old or new house had any chickens on the property as long as anyone can remember. My older birds (hatched in September) were vaccinated by me at hatch and did not go outside until March as I had to hide them from the landlord in the rental and after we moved I had a neighbours dog kill a pullet the first time I took the older birds outside( it barreled straight through the electric netting without stopping and I only managed to stop it by throwing my full body weight on the dog to pin it down) and had yet to set up a secure pen. ' Until this time they had used a large indoor garage areas that had very clean dry concrete floors and no access to wild birds. She had been transferred to the teenager pen inside the garage with a group of chicks I had been unable to vaccinate. None of those chicks caught it .
When she became ill she had never been outside.Yet her symptoms were classic Mareks and I am still puzzled.....
you didn't stir up a storm, the discussion was already going on when you came in.Oh dear, didn't mean to stir up such a storm! I haven't seen Mareks before and was puzzled as to how she could have it.
To fill you in a bit, she was vaccinated as a chick as a day old and arrived to be brooded inside the house. I have just moved to a new house and neither the old or new house had any chickens on the property as long as anyone can remember. My older birds (hatched in September) were vaccinated by me at hatch and did not go outside until March as I had to hide them from the landlord in the rental and after we moved I had a neighbours dog kill a pullet the first time I took the older birds outside( it barreled straight through the electric netting without stopping and I only managed to stop it by throwing my full body weight on the dog to pin it down) and had yet to set up a secure pen. ' Until this time they had used a large indoor garage areas that had very clean dry concrete floors and no access to wild birds. She had been transferred to the teenager pen inside the garage with a group of chicks I had been unable to vaccinate. None of those chicks caught it .
Yet her symptoms were classic Mareks and I am still puzzled.....
do you have pics of your other babies?
Help Wanted: Cream Legbar people!!!
As I look in the 'Breeds' section of BYC forum...it goes from Cornish Cross to Crevcour. WHAT!!! the cream legbar is not there????? Is this a travesty of justice? (kidding, only kidding folks.) I would REALLY like to have a listing in breeds. Would some people here work with me in collaboration to get something put there? Do we just post? What should be included.
Also---in the famous Henderson's Chicken Breeds chart---what no Cream Legbar there either. unbelievable.
In the perfect world, we would have pictures of the Cream Legbar female and male -- and eggs. I know Boykin and Sheriff are getting a nice blue color...anyone else get other colors? AND, I guess since Madamwlf has a new variation (the white ones) those should be included....and didn't GaryDean recognize that someone may have a silver one?
What do you think? (meaning all y'all, as they say in the south) I could start off -- and I know that people can put reviews in there...it would be neat IMO to have a coordinated effort. A vague outline comes to mind something like: appearance - yellow legs, yellow beak, large comb on males---etc. if you get the drift.
Tell me what you think and if you would like to chip in. thnx
As I look in the 'Breeds' section of BYC forum...it goes from Cornish Cross to Crevcour. WHAT!!! the cream legbar is not there????? Is this a travesty of justice? (kidding, only kidding folks.) I would REALLY like to have a listing in breeds. Would some people here work with me in collaboration to get something put there? Do we just post? What should be included.
Also---in the famous Henderson's Chicken Breeds chart---what no Cream Legbar there either. unbelievable.
In the perfect world, we would have pictures of the Cream Legbar female and male -- and eggs. I know Boykin and Sheriff are getting a nice blue color...anyone else get other colors? AND, I guess since Madamwlf has a new variation (the white ones) those should be included....and didn't GaryDean recognize that someone may have a silver one?
What do you think? (meaning all y'all, as they say in the south) I could start off -- and I know that people can put reviews in there...it would be neat IMO to have a coordinated effort. A vague outline comes to mind something like: appearance - yellow legs, yellow beak, large comb on males---etc. if you get the drift.
Tell me what you think and if you would like to chip in. thnx
Cool idea.
maybe people could post ideas/features to include on here, or maybe even a separate thread to get all ideas in one place. Then it could be put together.
maybe people could post ideas/features to include on here, or maybe even a separate thread to get all ideas in one place. Then it could be put together.
Oh dear, didn't mean to stir up such a storm! I haven't seen Mareks before and was puzzled as to how she could have it.
To fill you in a bit, she was vaccinated as a chick as a day old and arrived to be brooded inside the house. I have just moved to a new house and neither the old or new house had any chickens on the property as long as anyone can remember. My older birds (hatched in September) were vaccinated by me at hatch and did not go outside until March as I had to hide them from the landlord in the rental and after we moved I had a neighbours dog kill a pullet the first time I took the older birds outside( it barreled straight through the electric netting without stopping and I only managed to stop it by throwing my full body weight on the dog to pin it down) and had yet to set up a secure pen. ' Until this time they had used a large indoor garage areas that had very clean dry concrete floors and no access to wild birds. She had been transferred to the teenager pen inside the garage with a group of chicks I had been unable to vaccinate. None of those chicks caught it .
Yet her symptoms were classic Mareks and I am still puzzled.....
I am so sorry you had to go through that
Your experience speaks volumes to me and regardless of what is said- the proof is in the pudding.
I do agree that we should get back to talking about Cream Legbars
Trish
"A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion"
OK, so I'm up at 5:30am this morning. I go out to do some chores. My #1 male cream legbar cockerel is chasing down and successfully mating my lowest ranking Welsummer adult female. James (#1) was born last week of February, shipped and arrived at the house March 1. That makes him about 13 weeks old and he's been working towards this for a bit. The crowing wars have begun, as there is males #2, #3, #4, #15 (blue laced red wyandotte). I have 8 mature hens, but one is broody. I have another seventeen 13-14 week old pullets who aren't ready for these teen guys. I have 2 coops, working on a 3rd, and electric netting just bought only enough for one group. This group could be where the pig hut is, giving me a short term 4th location. Choices are separating the males from the females, or dividing the males among the females. Future plans are to have some "love coops" that allow me to track progeny with a single male and small female ratio. Does anyone think it bad to have a bunch of young excited males with their young not so ready females? What would you do?
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Mine are about the same age. I have one cockerel who has been crowing for a month. A second just started crowing. The first one really would like to get down to business and my girls are all so little. I have gotten a new coop and hopefully have a run built for it so I can keep them separate from the big guys. I am afraid that my 3 year old rooster might just have these little guys for lunch.
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