The Legbar Thread!

Thanks for the links GaryDean. In one of them Robert Blosi from Alabama said:

"This is my goal to have a flock that looks like these birds and performs with great fleshing and egg laying ability. Rock mixes are great for getting the hybrid vigor. Heck, that is the way the broiler industry today got started using Rocks. Today as it was in the past, Rocks are great birds and bring a lot to the table for versatility and ability. That is what they were originated for. I understand about working with birds on others property. If the customer doesn't like the way the bird looks or acts, then they will not care for it and allow it to reach its greatest potential. That is why there are so many breeds and colors. The issue I see is that with a dual purpose bird, especially a parti-colored one is you can only work on one issue at a time. Fix type and fleshing first, build the body get the structure correct. Then work on egg laying, while maintaining the body, then color it. If you get a flock of any breed that you are trying to fix, outcrossing and hatching enough to be able to select the best of the best is paramount. I hatched 200 from 2 trios to select hard enough to get to this point. Selection and culling is more important that mating and breeding my mentor once said......"

I think a lot of this thread was focused on feather color, but not much has been said about body type for the 'ideal' of Cream Legbars.

Also I think I encountered somewhere-- and not sure where it was...(maybe someone here can point me to it), that Punnett developed the Cream Legbar at a time when there was a lot of scarcity in the UK, thus the value of not feeding the male birds to adult hood - when a person wanted egg layers. His goal Was the leghorn influence (obviously) to get plenty of eggs, the BPR influence to have a partially dual purpose bird? or simply for auto sexing? - and the Blue egg gene to show off his genetic chicken knowledge... anyone else read this? Thanks if you have a source -
 
I just finished reading through every single page and post on this thread (took me a few days, LOL!) and I feel like I have learned so much about chicken genetics. This is a great group of people.
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I'm excited about adding Cream Legbars to my flock in the spring. What a fun project I think they will be!

My only concern is their temperment. Right now I have mostly docile, calm birds (Wyandottes, Orpingtons, Rocks, etc.). We really enjoy them. The exception is our Lakenvelder and I have to say we don't really care for her. We call her Nervous Noodle and she is so flighty. She makes every attempt possible to stay far away from people. I don't need lap chickens, but I do enjoy being greeted by my other girls and their friendly companionship. I also have children who love to be involved in mom's poultry projects so they can't be aggressive, either.

From what I have read, it seems like you all really enjoy your Cream Legbars. Would you recommend them to a person like myself who doesn't care for flighty, high-strung birds? The crest, blue eggs, and auto-sexing has me sold, so I hope the answer is yes!
 
I just finished reading through every single page and post on this thread (took me a few days, LOL!) and I feel like I have learned so much about chicken genetics. This is a great group of people.
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I'm excited about adding Cream Legbars to my flock in the spring. What a fun project I think they will be!

My only concern is their temperment. Right now I have mostly docile, calm birds (Wyandottes, Orpingtons, Rocks, etc.). We really enjoy them. The exception is our Lakenvelder and I have to say we don't really care for her. We call her Nervous Noodle and she is so flighty. She makes every attempt possible to stay far away from people. I don't need lap chickens, but I do enjoy being greeted by my other girls and their friendly companionship. I also have children who love to be involved in mom's poultry projects so they can't be aggressive, either.

From what I have read, it seems like you all really enjoy your Cream Legbars. Would you recommend them to a person like myself who doesn't care for flighty, high-strung birds? The crest, blue eggs,and auto-sexing has me sold, so I hope the answer is yes!
OMG Really?? I started and gave up!! Maybe you should do a summary of what you learned!! LOL These are the TOP OF MY WANTS list!! Those hens are just beautiful!!!! I will get either eggs or peeps sometime!!!! sighhhhh My most favorite breed!!!
 
I just finished reading through every single page and post on this thread (took me a few days, LOL!) and I feel like I have learned so much about chicken genetics. This is a great group of people.
frow.gif
I'm excited about adding Cream Legbars to my flock in the spring. What a fun project I think they will be!

My only concern is their temperment. Right now I have mostly docile, calm birds (Wyandottes, Orpingtons, Rocks, etc.). We really enjoy them. The exception is our Lakenvelder and I have to say we don't really care for her. We call her Nervous Noodle and she is so flighty. She makes every attempt possible to stay far away from people. I don't need lap chickens, but I do enjoy being greeted by my other girls and their friendly companionship. I also have children who love to be involved in mom's poultry projects so they can't be aggressive, either.

From what I have read, it seems like you all really enjoy your Cream Legbars. Would you recommend them to a person like myself who doesn't care for flighty, high-strung birds? The crest, blue eggs, and auto-sexing has me sold, so I hope the answer is yes!
YES! Absolutely! I was given my eggs in the May swap and hatched 2 of each. One cockerel died, so I had a perfect trio. They are curious and friendly. One pullet loves to be petted and held, and she is the first to greet me at the door.
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I would say they are a pretty docile breed. I have one hen who will come close to you but does not really want to be picked up. On the other end I have a hen who will come and jump in your lap. The others are somewhere in between. The roosters seem pretty well behaved, though mine will sometimes puff up his feathers when he thinks you might be up to something.
 
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Ooh! Ooh! How about Rose Cream Legbar?
And by the way, flyingmonkeypoop, why do you live way out in Washington? What if I want to come over and buy a few chicks or eggs? (My mail is rough.) Consider Michigan. We have four beautiful seasons: cold, stinkin' cold, muddy and cold, and stiflingly humid.

Flyingmonkey, Just to throw it out why cream legbarhorn? Why not something with "rose" denoting the comb?
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Well, I am calling them legbarhorns because they are not cream and they are not legbar or leghorn, it is just what I am calling the first generation crele colored cross bred birds. In the end I will just call them rose combed cream legbars because they will be much like a legbar but hopefully more leggy and tall with a nice crest and rose comb. I plan to keep the best rose combed offspring with the best crest size (not polish sized but bigger than a slight tuft), and the pullets that lay blue eggs the earliest and go from there.

I live on the dry side of Washington. We are more like North Idaho than the stereo-typical wet-side of the state. We have very cold (-20) winters with 4' of snow, then wet springs, lots and lots of mountain runoff from melting snow, then very hot (over 100) summers, and cold falls (it has been in the low 20's at night). I love it here in this area. If I had to leave eastern Washington, I would either move to the lake house in North Idaho or the cabin in the woods over in western Montana. If you wanted some birds I would be glad to share starting next year. Our of the 10 pullets I have right now I only plan to keep the best 6 and sell the other 4.
 
I think the perfect cross would be the Cream Legbar with the Crele Orpington. I love the rounded, plumpness of the orpingtons and they are much more docile than the leghorns.....any way that is my idea and what I hope to do in the next year.
 
Buy all cream legbars do you mean that you will get all double barred Legbarhorns cockerels? The Legbarhorns won't all have the cream gene, or all be homogeneous for blue eggs. The cream color is recessive and requires to copies to manifest itself. The blue eggs gene is dominate and only requires one blue egg gene to manifest it self, so you will need to test mate breeders for the blue egg gene. Test mating will also be required on breeders to lock cresting into the line since it can be manifest with the gene from a single parent.

You should start a new thread for Legbarhorns.


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My dark down ladies end up with a darker plumage than my light ladies.

These are not the best photos to show since you cant see the strip on the light chick (right) or the full body on the hens, but the dark down chick (left) defiantly turned out darker plumage for me. The dark hen appeared to be homozygous for the dark down. All of her chick were dark downed. The cockerel I used was also of dark down, but appeared to be spit between light and dark because I got about 20% (Exact %?) light down from the light downed hen using the same cockerel.


dark hen (left) light hen (right)
I have crele penedesenca. which you can use partridge to diversify the bloodline but takes a few generations of breeding partridge x crele offspring back to crele.probably the same with light brown leghorns and legbars?
 

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