Sorry to hear that although we have had good success with silvers trioing, especially if you let the hens start setting on the eggs our silver drakes will move on to another hen once the hen he was paired with is gone sitting on eggs. Still you hate to lose a bird you just got.
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Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
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Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
Thanks! All of the others are doing good! I really think that he has been "sick" since I got him and all the birds I got on that day almost 1/2 the pen plus the burds I had (46) got put in there on the same day.
No we don't quatantin them but I might just start doing that. We have to get their old pen fixed to be able to do that anr right now it has 3 Toms (I think they are Toms) Turkeys in there.. They were fighting.. Hopefully everything else is fine. I haven't noticed any of the others acting like that one did. The breeder that live like 15-20 mintues from me had brought over birds I got from him the say I got that teal and he said something was wrong with it from that day. He has one that he got from the same breeder that still "doesn't look right". It is aweful to loose one but if out of 128 birds I only loose one this year I will be okay.
As for the trioing.. I plan on letting all of the hens set on their eggs, well that is the plan for now, so if I can't find another drake keep your fingers crossed that it will work.. We are planning our brood house and catch pen now and I am already having problems thinking abour selling them!! lol They are like my other children!
Any advice on the mothers sitting on their own nest? we would of course catch the little ones as soon as they hatch and but them in the brood house. I have heard to let them set on them (which is what we did last year), let them set for 7-10 days and then take them away and put them in an incubator or put them under broody chickens which I have 50+ of Silkies and Cochins for the sole purpose of sitting on turkey eggs and could use them for chickens?
Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
Thanks! All of the others are doing good! I really think that he has been "sick" since I got him and all the birds I got on that day almost 1/2 the pen plus the burds I had (46) got put in there on the same day.
No we don't quatantin them but I might just start doing that. We have to get their old pen fixed to be able to do that anr right now it has 3 Toms (I think they are Toms) Turkeys in there.. They were fighting.. Hopefully everything else is fine. I haven't noticed any of the others acting like that one did. The breeder that live like 15-20 mintues from me had brought over birds I got from him the say I got that teal and he said something was wrong with it from that day. He has one that he got from the same breeder that still "doesn't look right". It is aweful to loose one but if out of 128 birds I only loose one this year I will be okay.
As for the trioing.. I plan on letting all of the hens set on their eggs, well that is the plan for now, so if I can't find another drake keep your fingers crossed that it will work.. We are planning our brood house and catch pen now and I am already having problems thinking abour selling them!! lol They are like my other children!
Any advice on the mothers sitting on their own nest? we would of course catch the little ones as soon as they hatch and but them in the brood house. I have heard to let them set on them (which is what we did last year), let them set for 7-10 days and then take them away and put them in an incubator or put them under broody chickens which I have 50+ of Silkies and Cochins for the sole purpose of sitting on turkey eggs and could use them for chickens?
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Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
Thanks! All of the others are doing good! I really think that he has been "sick" since I got him and all the birds I got on that day almost 1/2 the pen plus the burds I had (46) got put in there on the same day.
No we don't quatantin them but I might just start doing that. We have to get their old pen fixed to be able to do that anr right now it has 3 Toms (I think they are Toms) Turkeys in there.. They were fighting.. Hopefully everything else is fine. I haven't noticed any of the others acting like that one did. The breeder that live like 15-20 mintues from me had brought over birds I got from him the say I got that teal and he said something was wrong with it from that day. He has one that he got from the same breeder that still "doesn't look right". It is aweful to loose one but if out of 128 birds I only loose one this year I will be okay.
As for the trioing.. I plan on letting all of the hens set on their eggs, well that is the plan for now, so if I can't find another drake keep your fingers crossed that it will work.. We are planning our brood house and catch pen now and I am already having problems thinking abour selling them!! lol They are like my other children!
Any advice on the mothers sitting on their own nest? we would of course catch the little ones as soon as they hatch and but them in the brood house. I have heard to let them set on them (which is what we did last year), let them set for 7-10 days and then take them away and put them in an incubator or put them under broody chickens which I have 50+ of Silkies and Cochins for the sole purpose of sitting on turkey eggs and could use them for chickens?
Although I don't have any experience with Ornamentals and my first two pairs are being shipped tomorrow, I can't emphasize enough the importance of quarantining any new feathered creature you bring onto your property.
I've been breeding and raising parrots for 30 years and I can tell you that a bird that "looks clean" can come onto your property and decimate your entire flock within a month. I followed and still follow quarantine procedures for all my years in parrots and now that I have poultry, I do the same thing.
I've been very lucky but I know someone who lost more than $200,000 worth of birds because they brought a $150 finch onto their property and it spread a disease amongst all their birds. Wiped them out!
I even quarantine birds that I bring home from my friends farms. I don't want them to think that I don't trust them or their birds but they get birds from their friends who get birds from their friends and so on and so forth.
Be safe, quarantine all newcomers. Its what a responsible bird owner does!
I'm so sorry you lost your duck. That stinks! Good luck with the rest of your flock!
Laurie
Man, Kanga, that stinks!
Hate that happened, it's all part of it though, every now and then we're gonna loose one. Sounds like it must have come in with it.
I do agree with waterdog on the trioing though. I had them do that too in odd ball cases, though they are best in pairs, one male can in the right circumstances service a couple hens.
Dont let it get you down though.
How are all the others doing?
I'm sure you do, but are you quarantining the new arrivals for a while before adding them to the main display pen? Would stink to get some one else's disease in the main pen
Thanks! All of the others are doing good! I really think that he has been "sick" since I got him and all the birds I got on that day almost 1/2 the pen plus the burds I had (46) got put in there on the same day.
No we don't quatantin them but I might just start doing that. We have to get their old pen fixed to be able to do that anr right now it has 3 Toms (I think they are Toms) Turkeys in there.. They were fighting.. Hopefully everything else is fine. I haven't noticed any of the others acting like that one did. The breeder that live like 15-20 mintues from me had brought over birds I got from him the say I got that teal and he said something was wrong with it from that day. He has one that he got from the same breeder that still "doesn't look right". It is aweful to loose one but if out of 128 birds I only loose one this year I will be okay.
As for the trioing.. I plan on letting all of the hens set on their eggs, well that is the plan for now, so if I can't find another drake keep your fingers crossed that it will work.. We are planning our brood house and catch pen now and I am already having problems thinking abour selling them!! lol They are like my other children!
Any advice on the mothers sitting on their own nest? we would of course catch the little ones as soon as they hatch and but them in the brood house. I have heard to let them set on them (which is what we did last year), let them set for 7-10 days and then take them away and put them in an incubator or put them under broody chickens which I have 50+ of Silkies and Cochins for the sole purpose of sitting on turkey eggs and could use them for chickens?
Although I don't have any experience with Ornamentals and my first two pairs are being shipped tomorrow, I can't emphasize enough the importance of quarantining any new feathered creature you bring onto your property.
I've been breeding and raising parrots for 30 years and I can tell you that a bird that "looks clean" can come onto your property and decimate your entire flock within a month. I followed and still follow quarantine procedures for all my years in parrots and now that I have poultry, I do the same thing.
I've been very lucky but I know someone who lost more than $200,000 worth of birds because they brought a $150 finch onto their property and it spread a disease amongst all their birds. Wiped them out!
I even quarantine birds that I bring home from my friends farms. I don't want them to think that I don't trust them or their birds but they get birds from their friends who get birds from their friends and so on and so forth.
Be safe, quarantine all newcomers. Its what a responsible bird owner does!
I'm so sorry you lost your duck. That stinks! Good luck with the rest of your flock!
Laurie
TennesseeTruly .. that scares me..
I will so do that in the future! Almost all my waterfowl came in within a few days of each other this time and I didn't even think about it. I am used to birds that we get in at a day old and have them in brooders until they get added into the stock.
Keeping my fingers crossed! Something else to keep me up at night!
I will so do that in the future! Almost all my waterfowl came in within a few days of each other this time and I didn't even think about it. I am used to birds that we get in at a day old and have them in brooders until they get added into the stock.
Keeping my fingers crossed! Something else to keep me up at night!
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yep, it's ig plus to do so on all your birds. I know with that many coming in at once, it can be hard to do, but worth every penny.
30 days is the basic rule of thumb. And if one seems sickly or shows symptoms, the clock starts over after it's all better for another 30 days, just to be safe.
Like TenneesseTruly said, I too have seen many folks get wiped out with various problems from not doing so.
Anyway, on to the hen setting thing.
They are the best incubator you can have. Keep in mind though, many especially new hens, often will just lay eggs randomly over the pen, or just not go broody for you, so # 1 , watch that.
also, trying to catch day old ducklings in a huge pen, LOL Video tape that for me, that'll be cute !
Always best, like you were saying to try to watch the hen closely, and ruffly estimate when she's due to hatch. when I did let hens set, I'd always try to pull them the last week -5 days and incubate the rest of the way.
I never let any be pen raised, though a lot of folks do.
But if you do, you need very small wire around the bottoms, watch snakes (they love them) watch drakes (they can at times kill babies on some breeds, others are just as protective as hens) To me though, yes, they are much safer in the brooder, plus that way you have a shot at the hen producing again, if she raises them though, 9 times out of 10, she's done for the year.
Get us some hatched, I sure hope to start recollecting my birds this coming season.
30 days is the basic rule of thumb. And if one seems sickly or shows symptoms, the clock starts over after it's all better for another 30 days, just to be safe.
Like TenneesseTruly said, I too have seen many folks get wiped out with various problems from not doing so.
Anyway, on to the hen setting thing.
They are the best incubator you can have. Keep in mind though, many especially new hens, often will just lay eggs randomly over the pen, or just not go broody for you, so # 1 , watch that.
also, trying to catch day old ducklings in a huge pen, LOL Video tape that for me, that'll be cute !
Always best, like you were saying to try to watch the hen closely, and ruffly estimate when she's due to hatch. when I did let hens set, I'd always try to pull them the last week -5 days and incubate the rest of the way.
I never let any be pen raised, though a lot of folks do.
But if you do, you need very small wire around the bottoms, watch snakes (they love them) watch drakes (they can at times kill babies on some breeds, others are just as protective as hens) To me though, yes, they are much safer in the brooder, plus that way you have a shot at the hen producing again, if she raises them though, 9 times out of 10, she's done for the year.
Get us some hatched, I sure hope to start recollecting my birds this coming season.
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Thanks! We have a .5x.5 inch wire around the bottom of the pen that goes two feet up on the outside and before breeding season we are planning on running some kind of board around the whole pen to help block the birds view of the outsdide world! the poor things now can stand t one end and see the "big" pond behind them!
It was hard enough catching the few we had hatch this year in the little pen we have. I will be wearing a bathing suit and water shoes so I can just run after them! It should make for some great entertainment in this new pen. I really don't want to let them set the whole time this year because that is actually how we lost some last year. They went straight through the wire. Some of them came back but we ended up leaving them in there over night and then we lost some. I;d rather take the days after I know that they are almost ready and put them under a chicken or in the incubator!
I am getting ready to submit my permit so I will be ready hopefully! I just found 2 more breeder pair of Barrow's so now to decide if I would rather get the breeders or get two pair of this years birds!! 2 pair or one... such hard decisions!
Thanks! We have a .5x.5 inch wire around the bottom of the pen that goes two feet up on the outside and before breeding season we are planning on running some kind of board around the whole pen to help block the birds view of the outsdide world! the poor things now can stand t one end and see the "big" pond behind them!
It was hard enough catching the few we had hatch this year in the little pen we have. I will be wearing a bathing suit and water shoes so I can just run after them! It should make for some great entertainment in this new pen. I really don't want to let them set the whole time this year because that is actually how we lost some last year. They went straight through the wire. Some of them came back but we ended up leaving them in there over night and then we lost some. I;d rather take the days after I know that they are almost ready and put them under a chicken or in the incubator!
I am getting ready to submit my permit so I will be ready hopefully! I just found 2 more breeder pair of Barrow's so now to decide if I would rather get the breeders or get two pair of this years birds!! 2 pair or one... such hard decisions!
Hi Kangababy
where are you in Alabama. I am on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and have a nice collection of Exotic Ducks too as well as chickens, a few geese and yard ducks but not to the extent you do.
where are you in Alabama. I am on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and have a nice collection of Exotic Ducks too as well as chickens, a few geese and yard ducks but not to the extent you do.
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Thanks! We have a .5x.5 inch wire around the bottom of the pen that goes two feet up on the outside and before breeding season we are planning on running some kind of board around the whole pen to help block the birds view of the outsdide world! the poor things now can stand t one end and see the "big" pond behind them!
It was hard enough catching the few we had hatch this year in the little pen we have. I will be wearing a bathing suit and water shoes so I can just run after them! It should make for some great entertainment in this new pen. I really don't want to let them set the whole time this year because that is actually how we lost some last year. They went straight through the wire. Some of them came back but we ended up leaving them in there over night and then we lost some. I;d rather take the days after I know that they are almost ready and put them under a chicken or in the incubator!
I am getting ready to submit my permit so I will be ready hopefully! I just found 2 more breeder pair of Barrow's so now to decide if I would rather get the breeders or get two pair of this years birds!! 2 pair or one... such hard decisions!
sounds like you know what I mean already then.
as for the barrow's, they often take upwards of 3 years to start laying, so if the price difference isnt too bad, and you know by "breeders" they arent 15 year old over the hill birds, I'd get them. That's one thing I was always worried about when buying "breeders" though.
WHY ARE YOU SELLING YOUR GREAT BREEDERS?
Always wondered about that. People advertise them are proven, or great layers etc, so just why are you selling them.... I always seemed to get the sterile or geriatric ones when I did it, so I just stuck with yearlings for the most part. Barrow's can be a pain to get to reproduce anyway though, so if you know and trust the person selling them, the adults will be a good deal if they arent too pricey
Thanks! We have a .5x.5 inch wire around the bottom of the pen that goes two feet up on the outside and before breeding season we are planning on running some kind of board around the whole pen to help block the birds view of the outsdide world! the poor things now can stand t one end and see the "big" pond behind them!
It was hard enough catching the few we had hatch this year in the little pen we have. I will be wearing a bathing suit and water shoes so I can just run after them! It should make for some great entertainment in this new pen. I really don't want to let them set the whole time this year because that is actually how we lost some last year. They went straight through the wire. Some of them came back but we ended up leaving them in there over night and then we lost some. I;d rather take the days after I know that they are almost ready and put them under a chicken or in the incubator!
I am getting ready to submit my permit so I will be ready hopefully! I just found 2 more breeder pair of Barrow's so now to decide if I would rather get the breeders or get two pair of this years birds!! 2 pair or one... such hard decisions!
sounds like you know what I mean already then.
as for the barrow's, they often take upwards of 3 years to start laying, so if the price difference isnt too bad, and you know by "breeders" they arent 15 year old over the hill birds, I'd get them. That's one thing I was always worried about when buying "breeders" though.
WHY ARE YOU SELLING YOUR GREAT BREEDERS?
Always wondered about that. People advertise them are proven, or great layers etc, so just why are you selling them.... I always seemed to get the sterile or geriatric ones when I did it, so I just stuck with yearlings for the most part. Barrow's can be a pain to get to reproduce anyway though, so if you know and trust the person selling them, the adults will be a good deal if they arent too pricey
Great advice Aubrey ,also Kanga If you want maximum babie production you can collect the eggs before they set and put them under a broody hen. For me I have found once they set they rarely lay another clutch. Also whenever I want to have multiple clutches of rarer birds I will even go so far as to put them under my more common ducks like pintails and manderins if they already have eggs or are setting themselves. He made me laugh about the baby chase in a big pen .Lets just say I accidently contributed some pintails,woodies and others to the migration. But my fav was when I went to like a local pond and saw four manderins swimmin round .people standing around said most beautiful ducks they had ever seen
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