The Migratory/Ornamental Waterfowl INFO Thread

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

ah!

That makes more sense to me now. One thing though. none of what you listed eats much at all, not even the peafowl.
so feeding just a few in the evening would only take a quick second.
To be honest. I made a gravity feeder when I had mine that would hold a 50# bag of feed, so I only had to feed every so often per pen.
I took a huge section of PVC pipe, it was about a 12 " pipe, 3 foot tall or so. had my cusin build a metal bottom about 4 iches deep and 2 foot square for it and took some L brackets and bolted it about 1 1/2 inches of the bottom of the pan. Built a little house for it, so nothing would get wet, put it in the house, filled it up and let 'em go.

Worked great that way, he wouldnt have to feed at all when you werent there. Just kinda poke his head out and be sure everybody was still where they are supposed to be.

this can also be built out of ply wood too. doesnt have to be pipe and metal, they just held up better and were easier to clean.

 

[roocrazy]

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how much are mallards regularly?

I got a pair for FREE with a purchase of two scovie girls!

 

[KansasKid]

In reality Mallards are a domesticated breed and i bought all mine at the $4 range.

 

[toejam]

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OK thanks BBB.
another problem I think is water. Water for them to drink in the winter escpecially. Then keeping the water in a pond filled/clean. Hopefully it will all work out. Im back over on christmas, so thats when ill tell him.

 

[KansasKid]

Hey aubrey, I was trying to remember where i saw it at but i thought i saw somewhere that the white faced tree ducks need the FWS permit?

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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how much are mallards regularly?

I got a pair for FREE with a purchase of two scovie girls!

yep, like KASANS KID SAID, $4-$5 EACH

Some sell, so called "wild mallards" how they know the difference I dont know, for $40 pr
But a mallard is a mallard, if you look around you can usually get them for free or next to it .

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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OK thanks BBB.
another problem I think is water. Water for them to drink in the winter escpecially. Then keeping the water in a pond filled/clean. Hopefully it will all work out. Im back over on christmas, so thats when ill tell him.

HAHA,
There aint no keeping it clean. If you do an in ground one, for just a couple pairs, a decent pool sand filter will do good for you and cut back the need for total water changes . But, with all the poop and mud they track into it. At least once a month, you'll have to drain, bleach and re fill it.

As for winter time, they now make heaters for them, also a lot of my northern buddies use strong aerators in them to keep the water vigorously moving, this helps too.

You could always put antifreeze in it, LOL I highly dont suggest it though, LOL

Fortunately , we never have to deal with that here. Worst case, you just have to ditch the pond and give them daily drinking water during the bad months.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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That's correct KK
Not sure why, they are a freakin African species, not like you'll ever see one flying around in the wild here, but they are, as are the fluvous and black belly, all the other treeducks are fine though.

I've often wondered about their list of North American species, gargany, falcated,baikal, smew, white face,bahama pintail, and a few others that are not truly native here, are on the list, but why??? True 1-2 may have got confused 200 years ago and accidentally flew over the states, but they are in now way native to us, yet we have to have the permit for native species to keep them for sales. Who knows, government for you.

You can go to their website and see a full species list of those under the Migratory Waterfowl Act that are required to have the sales permit.
dont have the link handy, but Google
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Migratory Waterfowl Sales and Disposal Permit, it'll pop right up and be in that section some where.
If I find the link, I'll post it here for all o see, or may just copy the species list and paste it here for everyone.

 

[KansasKid]

Well part of the reason i asked was because i found this stating that "the purpose for this notice is to make the public aware of the final list of 'all nonnative, human-introduced bird species to which the migratory bird treaty act does not apply' as required by the MBTRA of 2004"
and the white faced tree ducks were on there along with mandarins and ringed teal?

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/R...Final List of Excluded Species March 2005.pdf

ah

i think figured it out, above the statement i quoted its says something about a reform in '04

o and thanks for replying to my other thread.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

yep, if they are no longer a MBTA protected species, then no they are no longer protected under the permit either as that's all it can protect.
I just went over there
here's the full list of MBTA species,

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/mbta/mbtandx.html

you have to weed threw it to find what you are looking for duck wise, but no, they are no longer on it.
The black bellied and fulvous are, and now I see the cuban is too (Shawn, lol)
I never knew that myself, dont know if they've always been on there, or just a new addition. I never had a permit for mine and they came from Sylvan Heights back in the day.

I seen gargany, baikal, fulvous and all those I mentioned earlier are still on there though.