The Moonshiner's Leghorns

[KF0002]

Not right now with all the obsession over new colors of feathers.

If an EE looks Ameraucana, is the correct color and lays a blue egg it's an Ameraucana. Lol.

If it looks Ameraucana, is the correct color but lays a brown, white or cream egg it's not an Ameraucana. Just don't tell that to fad Ameraucana owners. I kinda have a beef with them and their strange ways. Some in the clubs agree. They use the term EE willy nilly and get upset if you call a project color an EE but will call your project color an EE. It's very high school over there.

Good gracious, what a mess.

I can understand project colors if you breed them back to Ameraucana and they meet Ameraucana standards. But until then, they are EE not Ameraucana. That would be like me calling any F1 birds from my Crele Leghorn project an actual Crele Leghorn. They can’t be considered Crele Leghorns until they meet the breed standards for type, earlobe color, egg color, leg color, lack of crest, etc.

 

[sean_wonder]

I've heard DE doesn't really work for infestations.

It does! At least for NFM. You just have to fluff it into them directly, 7 days after first treatment do it again, and then usually one more time after another week for total clearance. Have done it successfully for two different flocks twice. Didn’t know elector psp takes only a few days.

 

[KF0002]

It does! At least for NFM. You just have to fluff it into them directly, 7 days after first treatment do it again, and then usually one more time after another week for total clearance. Have done it successfully for two different flocks twice. Didn’t know elector psp takes only a few days.

I have always been told to use DE in the pen and coop but never on the bird because it can damage their lungs.

 

[Amer]

Elector also kills the mite eggs and larvae apparently.

 

[sean_wonder]

I have always been told to use DE in the pen and coop but never on the bird because it can damage their lungs.

The air sacs are more the fear of damaging than the lungs, but yes. There’s specific ways to “fluff” them with DE to minimize their exposure to excess amounts.
1. Pillow case method: DE in pillowcase, put chicken in and secure the opening around their neck. Lightly shake and poof the pillow until chicken is coated and release.
2. Powder puff method: DE in a small porous cloth, use it on the hen like a lady’s powder puff. Extremely time consuming imo.
3. Baby “snot sucker” method: IDK what they’re called, but there’s little silicon things that people use to suck boogers out of baby noses that you can fill with DE and poof onto your bird.

Or just get generous DE on your hands and massage into the bird’s most affected areas, always taking care to avoid the head and doing it in a very well ventilated area.

Treatment with that much DE is generally short enough that the exposure (when done correctly) shouldn’t be damaging… I’ve always been a fan of DE and never had respiratory issues with it (even when being warned to NEVER put it in my coop because of the potential damage to their airways.)

You also have to take care of what kind of DE you get, because insecticidal vs. food grade has different particle sizes which can be more damaging the larger they get.

 

[sean_wonder]

Elector also kills the mite eggs and larvae apparently.

I just avoided it because DE was cheaper for more, but it does sound tempting/worthwhile if NFM infestation occurs again.

 

[KF0002]

Elector also kills the mite eggs and larvae apparently.

I have been meaning to buy some but can’t get over the sticker shock of the price.

 

[KF0002]

I know I'm good on blues, blacks and blue gold duckwings.
Low numbers on buffs, exchequer, lavender silver duckwings and barred. Those I used to have plenty of. Need to get those numbers up.
OK but need to work on silver crele, blue silver duckwing and blue silver crele.
Won't worry much with crele or blue crele this year.
Everything else is up in the air atm.

We need pictures! We are having beautiful Leghorn withdrawal! lol

And if you have any extra eggs, you can send them straight to Kentucky so I can hatch them and love them!

 

[KF0002]

The air sacs are more the fear of damaging than the lungs, but yes. There’s specific ways to “fluff” them with DE to minimize their exposure to excess amounts.
1. Pillow case method: DE in pillowcase, put chicken in and secure the opening around their neck. Lightly shake and poof the pillow until chicken is coated and release.
2. Powder puff method: DE in a small porous cloth, use it on the hen like a lady’s powder puff. Extremely time consuming imo.
3. Baby “snot sucker” method: IDK what they’re called, but there’s little silicon things that people use to suck boogers out of baby noses that you can fill with DE and poof onto your bird.

Or just get generous DE on your hands and massage into the bird’s most affected areas, always taking care to avoid the head and doing it in a very well ventilated area.

Treatment with that much DE is generally short enough that the exposure (when done correctly) shouldn’t be damaging… I’ve always been a fan of DE and never had respiratory issues with it (even when being warned to NEVER put it in my coop because of the potential damage to their airways.)

You also have to take care of what kind of DE you get, because insecticidal vs. food grade has different particle sizes which can be more damaging the larger they get.

As much as I love the notion of natural holistic cures for things, when my birds have parasites, whether internal or external I have to reach for tried and true things that work for me. It’s a mental bug phobia thing for me. I want them dead, their grandma dead, their aunts and uncles, cousins, and the whole family reunion destroyed! As quickly as possible.

 

[The Moonshiner]

1. Pillow case method: DE in pillowcase, put chicken in and secure the opening around their neck. Lightly shake and poof the pillow until chicken is coated and release.

So don't throw bird completely into pillowcase? Add DE until half full then wildly swing pillowcase around and around over your head?
I think I had the method wrong.