The Most asked question! My turn

[Brooks_]

it's honestly sad you believe anything from the NYT

It was the most main stream source with a hint of truth I could find. If you like I can use other sources, just to be shot down as "conspiracy theory". Just can't win.

 

[K0k0shka]

Thank you for this! They are not the same at all.

Regarding them as the same thing is a red flag as to someone's level of informed-ness. Know what it is before hating it. Blanket hate is not productive.

 

[Brooks_]

Regarding them as the same thing is a red flag as to someone's level of informed-ness. Know what it is before hating it. Blanket hate is not productive.

Where was anyone confusing the two?

 

[K0k0shka]

Where was anyone confusing the two?

In this thread.

 

[Brooks_]

In this thread.

Post # please, I could've missed it, but I didn't see it.

 

[Cecisflock]

It was the most main stream source with a hint of truth I could find. If you like I can use other sources, just to be shot down as "conspiracy theory". Just can't win.

I am open to other sources ofc!

 

[Chris2018]

Outside of crops that have not been gmo'd, yes, that is my view.

Good question.

If it is possible to have Organic then it is possible to have Non-Gmo.

"GMO/non-GMO" and "organic/non-organic" are different things, by the way. The terms are not interchangeable.

From Forbes:

"Most commonly found in crops such as soybeans, corn and canola, GMOs are designed to provide a higher nutritional value to food, as well as protect crops against pests.

Organic foods, on the other hand, do not contain any pesticides, fertilizers, solvents or additives."

I do know there is a difference between Non-GMO and GMO, Organic and Non-Organic and that the terms are not interchangeable.

They were "designed" to have more nutrishion, that doesn't mean they do provide more nutrishion or the same nutrients but at a greater about.

 

[Brooks_]

If it is possible to have Organic then it is possible to have Non-Gmo.

Outside of a 100% controlled environment, no, it is not. Cross pollination.

 

[NatJ]

Where was anyone confusing the two?

Probably these posts:

Kalmbach also has a Non GMO feed line including scratch grain if you want stay away from GMO's but don't want to pay for Organic

I don't think that's possible anymore. Cross pollination. Sure all efforts are made, but really the only non-gmo crops left are the ones that have never been gmo'd.

Just as possible as having a Organic line since all Organic Seeds/Grain/Feed are Non-GMO.

Whether someone was confusing them, I cannot say, but they were being discussed as if they had some things in common.

It looks to me like non-GMO is one thing, and Organic is non-GMO with extra conditions about pesticides and fertilizers and such.

So if non-GMO has problems, then Organic has the same problems (because it's also supposed to be non-GMO.)

 

[Brooks_]

Whether someone was confusing them,

I don't think anyone was.

but they were being discussed as if they had some things in common.

They do.

It looks to me like non-GMO is one thing, and Organic is non-GMO with extra conditions about pesticides and fertilizers and such.

Yeah, pretty much sums it up.

So if non-GMO has problems, then Organic has the same problems

Agreed.