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30 chicks out..the last one is pipped
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Found a really interesting article on fermenting food for preservation in general.  It's a long article BUT...PAGE 15, it starts a section on NUTRITIONAL VALUE OF FERMENTED FOODS.  That section isn't too long and might be worth reading if you're interested in fermenting feed.  Most of the article is about fermenting with Lactic Acid Bacteria.  There is also some info on alcohol fermentation in it.

Pretty interesting...scroll to page 15!

http://www.eden-foundation.org/project/articles_fermentation_thesis.pdf

[COLOR=FF0000]ETA:  Keep reading the whole section.  Talks about proteins, minerals, gut flora, anti-cancer effects, etc.[/COLOR]

Does it say anything about making alcohol after 48 hours? Because the FF thread is going off lately about how we're making alcohol if it sits for long, unless we add ACV. The new people are confusing me! Going to read the article now...my girls are running around like sugar-fueled maniacs, so I have some free time.
 
I have been seeing this every day when it is clear! They are chasing the eagles! The eagles don't seem to bother the chicks, but I still don't let them free range just yet. I even feed the crows to encourage them :) 


I often see the crows chasing hawks away from my yard! Although some hawks slip through when the crows are away :( !! I believe I have a crow nest in a tree not far from my coop. I am loving that!! I do notice dry spells of no crow chatter and then I'll hear the hawks.... I only let my girls free range when I'm with them but still as I have a hillside with many nooks and crannies it's hard to watch everyone a the time. So I record the crows when they are loud.... On my iPhone and when I hear the hawks I play my recorded crows :) it usually brings in the real ones in a few mins .... Yes I am that person :-0

H A P P Y E A S T E R everyone!!!!!
 
We're making coloured devilled eggs for our Easter dinner with family. Also Susan made a gluten free apple crumble cake - and OMG it is delicious! Yum!
I need that recipe please...the apple crumb cake (GF)
Found a really interesting article on fermenting food for preservation in general. It's a long article BUT...PAGE 15, it starts a section on NUTRITIONAL VALUE OF FERMENTED FOODS. That section isn't too long and might be worth reading if you're interested in fermenting feed. Most of the article is about fermenting with Lactic Acid Bacteria. There is also some info on alcohol fermentation in it.

Pretty interesting...scroll to page 15!

http://www.eden-foundation.org/project/articles_fermentation_thesis.pdf

ETA: Keep reading the whole section. Talks about proteins, minerals, gut flora, anti-cancer effects, etc.
OHHHHH wonderful..thank you!! You are a wealth of information..I am so glad you are here!
Quote: So far when the crows are around the hawks stay a distance away...the baby's are out side eating grass and I feel confident coming in since they are building a nest in the pines. They will keep the hawks away and they do not have chicks to feed..so they are safe..till than.
 
Found a really interesting article on fermenting food for preservation in general.  It's a long article BUT...PAGE 15, it starts a section on NUTRITIONAL VALUE OF FERMENTED FOODS.  That section isn't too long and might be worth reading if you're interested in fermenting feed.  Most of the article is about fermenting with Lactic Acid Bacteria.  There is also some info on alcohol fermentation in it.

Pretty interesting...scroll to page 15!

http://www.eden-foundation.org/project/articles_fermentation_thesis.pdf

[COLOR=FF0000]ETA:  Keep reading the whole section.  Talks about proteins, minerals, gut flora, anti-cancer effects, etc.[/COLOR]


Can't wait to check this out!! Thanks for posting.
 
Quote: Alcohol is produced when people use yeasts to start fermentation. (I have no idea why people choose to use a yeast, but they do)

Other types of acids are produced depending on what medium you choose. If you use vinegar you have acetobacteria, if you use yogurt or raw milk you have lactobacteria, and if you use things like cabbage or pickles too.
 
Alcohol is produced when people use yeasts to start fermentation. (I have no idea why people choose to use a yeast, but they do)

Other types of acids are produced depending on what medium you choose. If you use vinegar you have acetobacteria, if you use yogurt or raw milk you have lactobacteria, and if you use things like cabbage or pickles too.

So, I used ACV as a starter waaaay back, that means no alcohol right? And if I start my next batch with just buttermilk, with the cultures, will there be alcohol? Or should I add ACV (as stated in the FF thread recently) to keep it from turning to alcohol? I thought I was understanding so well, till they started talking about that stuff, then I got confused again.
I don't see how they're right, since Kassandra has been using the same bucket of liquid for months and months and said she didn't use any ACV.
 
Alcohol is produced when people use yeasts to start fermentation. (I have no idea why people choose to use a yeast, but they do)

Other types of acids are produced depending on what medium you choose. If you use vinegar you have acetobacteria, if you use yogurt or raw milk you have lactobacteria, and if you use things like cabbage or pickles too.


It's interesting I have become addicted to some locally made Kombucha lemon ginger tea that they sell at my farmers market... Well when I run out mid week and need a fix I goto whole foods and buy some mass produced kombucha. Apparently, it has been deemed alcoholic so producers need to filter & extra alcohol or only sell to people 21 or over!!! They have a few unfiltered/ processed that you must be 21 to buy and the others have had the alcohol removed.... It is crazy ridiculous. You'd have to drink 1000 bottles to feel anything ....
 

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