The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

So do you separate your cockerels to a separate area/pen until a certain age? What age?
I am butchering the juvie barnyard mix cockerels when they are about twelve weeks old. They run with the flock until a couple pounds. The HRIR cockerels will be separated from the females when they are about twelve to sixteen weeks old. The Silkies are all running together. The oldest cockerel is covering the sexually mature hens and the other two young males steer clear of them. When the Silkie youngsters are a few weeks older, I'll separate them from the girls too. I have found pullets grow better with less stress when raised separate. I've found large breed cockerels crow less and get along better when raised together too. I guess the short answer is separation around four months old. Before they crow and start getting rowdy with the pullets.

I have to keep the HRIR cockerels much longer than I normally would with other faster maturing breeds. Only two cock birds will be kept out of the twenty two I have now for breeding. I don't want to process the extras until they are grown out and I can clearly judge which are the closest to standard. Silkies are also slow to mature but are easier to raise together. Keeping the peace will be a challenge for the next nine months.
I free range both flocks together and they remain separate. I may have to stagger when each can free range some day.
 
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Mumsy so jealous you get to garden! We might need to build an ark it's rained so much. We need to build our breeding pens. Come on sunshine!
I need to get some new pics posted of my chicks. They are growing like weeds. I'm really enjoying all of the color and their silly antics.
 
Mumsy - another question on the cockerels.

I have just the ONE little guy who's 16 weeks. 6 adult hens (1 yr) 3 16 wk old pullets. I imagine with just ONE cockerel it wouldn't work to try to separate him since he wouldn't have company?

(I guess I could house him with the hen that takes him down every time he tries to get fresh! :D )
 
Mumsy - another question on the cockerels.

I have just the ONE little guy who's 16 weeks. 6 adult hens (1 yr) 3 16 wk old pullets. I imagine with just ONE cockerel it wouldn't work to try to separate him since he wouldn't have company?

(I guess I could house him with the hen that takes him down every time he tries to get fresh! :D )

We have one rooster that was trying to fight the hens, chest bumping and all of the stuff I thought he would do with another rooster. We put him by himself but where all of the chickens could see each other. He is just fine, except he still wants to fight with the hens. He will be going into the crockpot soon if he does not get more agreeable.
 
I may have to stagger when each can free range some day.

That's what I do. My Dark Cornish go out in the mornings and the SFH and my juvies go out in the afternoon. My daughter's bantam rooster and his hen got out in the evenings. It seems to work just fine.

Mumsy - another question on the cockerels.

I have just the ONE little guy who's 16 weeks. 6 adult hens (1 yr) 3 16 wk old pullets. I imagine with just ONE cockerel it wouldn't work to try to separate him since he wouldn't have company?

(I guess I could house him with the hen that takes him down every time he tries to get fresh! :D )

LM - I don't think you'll have any trouble with just one boy. The older hens will put him in his plave. Also, your hen to roo ratio is really good, so when he does start breeding them, it's unlikely any one girl will become over-used.
 
LM--Love..Love...Love your SFH's!!! I hope you figure out what Miss Black is because my Pitch could be her sister! I know Pitch's father was a Barred Rock Cross--crossed with what I don't know. Mother could be an EE, Barred Rock or Plymouth Rock.
x2 very pretty!
 
That's what I do. My Dark Cornish go out in the mornings and the SFH and my juvies go out in the afternoon. My daughter's bantam rooster and his hen got out in the evenings. It seems to work just fine.


LM - I don't think you'll have any trouble with just one boy. The older hens will put him in his plave. Also, your hen to roo ratio is really good, so when he does start breeding them, it's unlikely any one girl will become over-used.
Yes putting them in place.. this reminds me of a picture I have of Mabel showing Gigi what happens when he tries to mate an older woman...


 
Yes putting them in place.. this reminds me of a picture I have of Mabel showing Gigi what happens when he tries to mate an older woman...


Justine, I love that pic.- you captured her attitude so perfectly!

I am excited because I know I will have roosters again this spring with the 16 or so straight run chicks.

Will have until fall to figure out what I am going to do with however many roos appear.

I've uncovered two windows in the trailer coop demo project. Its a start. Scaping paint off the windows and trying to keep the hens from gobbling up the paint chips is not easy.

And, so far no results on the lab/necropsy, although they called me to say that they would do 10 chickens for the same cost as one. Everyone is remaining healthy so far!
 
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LOL Aoxa!!

OK -
Today I had a group of eggs go into lockdown. Of course I weeded out the ones that weren't developing and did an eggtopsy on them. Three were early quitters - no apparent reason. Just quit as some do. But wow! Two of them had obvious causes of death.

(Is it wrong that I am saving expired embryonic chickens for my kids to see when the get home? LOL!)





Warning!

Graphic eggtopsy pictures...







OK - so when I candled this one, it looked like yolk and fluid were just spilled out inside the shell. Sure enough... poor little buggar somehow managed to poke his beak through and rupture the membranes. In the photo, I have left the membranes intact as they were when I opened the egg. You can see his beak sticking through:








And now for something even more fascinating. It should be quite clear why nature took its course and allowed this one to die before it tried to hatch:





Yes - this poor thing developed with its organs on the outside of its body. It's a pitty - It would have been the first of its color from my group (blue-based black with no red).

Chances are you'll see this soon on the thing.
 
Okay - who's going to do the research on what could cause organs to develop on the outside of the body?

-Nutritional Deficiency in parent?
-"Nurirional/Chemical Overload" in parent causing birth defects?
-Exposure to parent of heavy metals?
-Incubator issues?
 

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