The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Sally - this pool cover is the polyester kind that is made out of the material that is like shade cloth. The rain will go through it just like it will w/shade cloth (think of the stuff they use on the poles over green house plants in the summer at Meijers, or wherever.) It's not a "solar cover" that's designed to warm up the pool.

I'm not worried about them having cover for rain. They just need shade on part of the run during the day if they're going to be stuck not being able to get out of that pen to range. Otherwise they'd want to be in the house all day to get out of the sun and it would be too close quarters.

I'll have to take a photo of what it looks like tomorrow.

Your pictures are great. It looks wonderful. If you have time and the resources you may want to make some kind of hide aways for them to get to in case of a hawk. It looks like you have plently of bushes and trees for protection when they are free ranging. But if one is sun bathing in a corner it might not be able to run to the coop in time. Although I'm sure you will leave your flags up.
 
Your pictures are great. It looks wonderful. If you have time and the resources you may want to make some kind of hide aways for them to get to in case of a hawk. It looks like you have plently of bushes and trees for protection when they are free ranging. But if one is sun bathing in a corner it might not be able to run to the coop in time. Although I'm sure you will leave your flags up.
Oh...you can't see it, but the whole run is covered with the netting that's used to keep deer/birds out of the garden. It's not for night time predators - the chickens are locked securely inside the hen house during the night. It's only for hawks. It's up all the time and has been there since the kennel was put up.

At some point the plan was to put up supports running from the house to the fence and attach either chicken wire or hardware cloth over the whole run so it would be night time top secure. That's been put off for various reasons and the light weight bird netting has served well for daytime hawk cover in the interim.

Not sure if you can see it from the photos, but the shade cloth part has pole supports as described above to give it support underneath. Eventually we'll do that for the whole kennel now that we have some bugs worked out.
 
the temporary netting over the top is this stuff:

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http://www.menards.com/main/buildin...7-x-100-wildlife-netting/p-1908088-c-5772.htm
 
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Not sure what breeds you have, but I would be sure to watch any rooster from a breed that is not described as extremely calm.  Children can get spooked easily even by people they love and trust like parents saying boo.  If a rooster thinks he has your child spooked, it could mean a chase around the yard.  We don't let our children in the yard the same time as the roosters unless we are watching the rooster and the children very closely.  Mainly we keep the roosters and the children separate as much as possible.  It only takes a few seconds for a rooster to puff and scare a child then a second for that rooster to jump and kick his spurs in the air.   


I've got black sex links and ISA roos as much as I love listening to them crow I think we will be eating all of them this time around. I've also got some RIRs but I'm pretty sure they're all pullets.
 
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Yah..before we increased the kennel/run size, I had heavy metal chicken wire covering the whole top. Then we added more space in there and, like you say, we need to have supports if we put up the heavy wire again.

We weren't sure that the location was going to be permanent so I wanted to wait until all that was worked out before we did a lot of work on it.

The light net has been up since about last November and has worked well for the hawks. I think the are afraid to hurt their wings on it.

I'm looking forward to getting better cover on, however!
 
Mumsy, I loved your video! Thank you for a peek into your world.

Justine, your plans and barn are all coming together so quickly now. I am loving your geese too. Beautiful!


any reason while I would find a 7 week old chick lying dead in the coop this morning. Stiff but not cold. It was near the roosting area but not under it, lying on hits back with its wings stretched out. No marks or wounds that I could see. They had plenty of food and water all day yesterday. The boys had been chest bumping the last few days but this was one of a few female chicks. There are some 11 week old chicks in there with the 7 week old chicks but they have been together for a few weeks now.
Sometimes they just die for no reason at all. Some do not build the same immunities as others. If you have any others acting off i would drop off a poop sample. This is the age where they are exposed to more worms and cocci.
Ok, I am officially sick of the thin shelled egg being broken in the nest box almost every other day. I know it's one of The Sisters, a sex link, I'm just not sure which one. They're the first to lay every day, so what time do I need to go out there to watch? Sun up, or before? I can't keep feeding her when she's not adding anything to the party. It's upsetting because they both laid so well when they first started. It's like for two days they're fine, then I won't get one at all then I get just the thin shell broken.
Ash, if they are pullets i would not worry excessively. They go threw all kinds of changes at this age. Offer there own eggs back to them, shells and all for a few days and see what happens.
Hello all! I've been lurking and learning a lot from everyone here! Now I have a question. I have 28 chicks that are 14 weeks they've always been all together. Just yesterday several of my roosters started picking on one of my hens, I went out to close up the coop last night and she was stuck under a gate. today she won't come down from the roost at all. The boys jumped on her immediately the one time she has. I'm not sure what if anything I should do with them! I hate for her to be stuck up there all day! Thoughts?
You say hens and roosters and than use the word chicks. Do you have adults in with chicks? Hens and roosters and over a year old, so I am confused. If all of your birds are 14 weeks old and you have too many cockerels in that age group they will kill a younger pullet and even a hen. Seperation until butchering or you can butcher out a few cockerels early if you do not have the room, and have cornish hen size meals. They are delicious when butchered out young.
Question: Do I have to turn my little camera videos into U-Tube videos in order to post them here?
Nice video..
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I have a "ground water" safety question... Anyone know the answer to this...:

FIRST THE BACKGROUND:
We are going to be away for the weekend and, for various reasons, I'm going to keep them in the dog kennel run rather than letting them out to range. (I have a guy that will tend to them but it's just safer not to let them out and hope they'll come in for him - in addition to the fact that the pullets have occasionally been jumping fences and if that happens, it would be hard for a stranger to round them up.)

-The "kennel run" is in full sun in the hottest parts of the day so I need to add a shade cloth again since they'll be stuck in there for 2.5 days.
-We were given an old mesh swimming pool cover that would work great. It has not been on a pool in probably 3 years.
-Last summer, it laid out flat in the grass and had about a month to air and get rained on, then it was folded and stored.
-I will thoroughly spray it down with fresh water this evening before putting it up.
-It will only be over 1/3 of the kennel run. 2/3 will be open.

THE QUESTION:
Does anyone know if this thing will leach harmful chemicals if it rains.
(Rain falls on the cloth and sifts through to the ground below where these chickens will be stuck stratching around for stuff.)

The cover is similar to the one in the photo below...polyester I think.

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eta: cutting it down to the size we need.
It will leach some toxins but not enough for you to worry about for now. Remove it when you do not need it. The shade is more important than the few toxins you will get. Perhaps use it just for the summer.
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So I do have two questions.
1) I don't really have any wood ash, but I have a ton of charcoal briquette ash. The name brand pressed briquettes. Would it work the same for the girls to dust in or should we avoid it? I'm not sure about any chemicals that may be in it.
2) my girls are on a fermented grain mix with weekly (or more) fish or meat protein supplements. They get kitchen scraps and free range for 6 or more hours a day, depending on my schedule. Since they have recently taken to hanging out on the driveway, I've noticed someone, or multiple someone's, has a thick black poo- no urates. It isn't runny or watery, just really thick and almost slimy looking. (There are lots of normal poops too.) Otherwise they all seem healthy. They range from 12-15 weeks old. The older ones are starting to red up, grow some wattles and seem to be getting close to POL. Any ideas on causes or treatments to help them firm up?
Charcole is not a good choice. Use the grill and add wood to it to burn in. Wood only.
Quote: You need to keep the new birds away from your birds for two weeks. I would introduce one of your birds after the two weeks are over and observe for the next two weeks.
Your grass will supply immunities for both batch of birds. I would get those crowded birds out in the sunshine and grass asap.
I am so excited!!!! I got my very first egg today from Snow, my white leghorn!!!!
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It's not very big, but I know that they will get bigger as the days go by. She disturbed the nest box, but then decided to lay it in a dark corner in the coop. I estimate around 9 am this morning! I'll have to clear out the corner of the coop, so it is not so dark now, so maybe tomorrow she'll use the nest box.
That is a very pretty egg! Congrats!!!
Quote: I use that netting too to keep new baby's from getting out of the fence.
 

Thanks mumsy, and aoxa. We have a fire pit, just haven't had a chance to do a fire. We just had lots of the other ash so was wondering. I figured ere was junk in it but didn't know what.
Mumsy- they've been on the feed for months. Pretty much since they came off of chick starter. They seem really healthy otherwise, so I guess I will just keep watching. I just didn't want to miss something.
 
Yep wood ash is best. Mine however prefer to dust in the sphagnum peat moss.

Back to three eggs yesterday. I let them out into Kennel run when got home from Food Delivery Freezer filling for Caring Place to Distribute t families on Tuesday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday donation pickup van comes in. We unload & put away then Tuesdays distribute. Loading into my refrigerator station by table is all I can physically do. Others unload the van.

Looking forward to someday being able to give some extra eggs to the Center. This year gardening extras are slated to donate. Trying to be more dependent on myself so I won't need too much from Welfare soon. But on 500 month, living alone with medical problems my chickens are very important to me. Not just pets. Healthy food. I want them natural and pure as possible.
 
Someone needs to create something natural that works for mosquitoes.. I have at least 10 new bites this evening. Not black flies, but mosquitoes.

Summer is coming..

It is extremely humid right now, in the 90% range. I feel like the air is a fog. This makes the bugs so much worse.

I take a few stalks of fresh lemongrass split lengthwise and warm it over the stove in half a cup of olive oil until the oil becomes fragrant. Bottle it all up together and apply to wrists and ankles before going out. If the bugs are really bad and I don't have to impress anybody, I'll add garlic to the brew. It doesn't work quite as well as DEET, but it does help.
 

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