The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Another quote from the article:​


Two years ago, in 2011, Dr. Huber wrote a letter to USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack, informing him of many of the safety concerns surrounding genetically engineered crops, along with yet another groundbreaking finding that could spell absolute disaster for your entire food supply. He warned Vilsack about the emergence of a brand new electron microscope-sized organism associated with something called Sudden Death Syndrome (SDS) in soy.

It's also found in a large variety of livestock given GE feed who experience both spontaneous abortions and infertility. This includes cattle, horses, sheep, pigs, and poultry. Might it affect humans in the same way? Dr. Huber urged the USDA to investigate the matter and suspend approval of GE alfalfa until proper studies have been completed.

“We know that all herbicides are chelators, mineral chelators. That’s how they compromise the plant’s physiology: they tie up a particular nutrient and shut down a physiologic pathway,” he says. “This wasn’t new from that standpoint. But the thing that was different [with glyphosate] was its biocidal effect. It’s not only a chelator, but it’s also a strong antibiotic to beneficial microorganisms. How do you compensate for that? How do you restore biological activities?

Much of my research, which was focused on glyphosate, was focused on the biology and restoration of those mineral nutrients. I served on the National Plant Disease Recovery Program. I was chairman at that time and also for the USDA. I’ve also served for 40 years on our various threat pathogens committees and recognized what the potential problems were with Roundup Ready alfalfa.”
The American Stock Growers’ Association also testified before Congress, saying that infertility was threatening the animal industry. Dr. Huber saw how all of these issues were connected—via genetically engineered crops and the application of glyphosate. He felt an obligation to alert the USDA secretary and to ask for his help in getting the research done before further jeopardizing not only our fourth most important crop, but also our entire animal production because of the prevalence of this new abortogenic entity, found in high concentrations in GE or high-glyphosate intense growth conditions.

His warnings were ignored, and GE alfalfa was deregulated that same year. Why is the USDA ignoring warnings from a scientist with 50 years of experience with plant pathology, soil-borne diseases, microbial ecology, and host-parasite relationships?

“A group of us met with the top administrators. I’ve never met with the secretary personally. But we did have the privilege of meeting and sharing our concerns and 130 or so peer-reviewed scientific articles that support our position with top administrators in USDA and some of the other agencies. They assured us that if we could do the work, they would be willing to look at it.

Well, they haven’t looked at any of the other peer-reviewed science... And the USDA scientists, who have a tremendous amount of knowledge on the impact of glyphosate, have all been muzzled. They’re not permitted to say anything about it. I got a phone call from one a few weeks ago. He said, ‘I’ll be retiring fairly soon. I plan on moving off and sharing that stage with you because I have a lot that I want to say. I just can’t say it right now.’”

From : http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...mail&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20131006Z1
 
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Thanks Delisha for the info on the eggs. I guess the Emu egg won't help :D

Sally8 love the pics. Edie's sister looks larger than her. And the pen full of BCMS boys make me miss George. I'm guessing that one is a girl since she has no copper
 
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[/URL] Stella laid an egg !!!! :weee Here are the eggs I got today & marked with who is who's. I am curious do you think Stella's will get bigger? It looks like the ping pong balls I used to put in the nesting boxes. : The other hens that I have that are near Stella's age are either laying or trying. The eggs are small like the one you showed. They eventually get bigger. I've actually had the first couple look like grapes. Apparently I'm not much fun in the animal food department. My chickens get chicken food, the dogs, dog food, cats, cat food, etc. I do like to sprout seeds for a few days for them but since they free range every day, in the summer I'm not consistent with that. Armorfirelady, did you see all the George roo's I have now? How could I have 8 roo's and 1 pullet hatch? I'm still crying. Today, I've kept them somewhat confined at least until noon. We are supposed to get strong storms and I'm not home.
 
New chicken owner for the past 2 months. I've been doing lots of reading pre-chickens and still. I was reading about herbal tea for colder months. Using fresh herbs, steeping and serving warm for the chickens. Has anyone done this? Trying to plan for winter. Will grow sprouts and continue with herbs as well. Any other good suggestions for winter feeding. They love free ranging and it makes me sad knowing snow will be coming
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I don't like the idea of the snow coming either... All I can keep telling myself is we are just that much closer to breeding season, and chicks. Lots of chicks...

The winter is terribly long here. Last year we had snow until May. This year they are predicting above average snow for the year. I am not impressed. :|
 
Sally8 I saw all the George's !! Makes me miss him more. He surely would of kept order here and wouldn't let the big girls peck the tots at food time lol. As for so many just think of the chicken dinners this winter you will have :)

Glad to hear your BRs started out with small eggs. Just seems funny that they are so big and lay such small eggs :)
 
Sally - what will you do with the Georges? 


I'm going to post them on Craigslist to anyone that will take them. I should do it today as they are showing interest in the girls and at times fighting with each other. I don't like getting rid of them this way but since I'm just starting out with BCM, I'm unsure as to how they compare to the SOP. Not that I want to show or breed but that if I were ever to sell them, I would want a better bird. My only interest is getting darker eggs. I was hoping for at least a couple pullets to see if their eggs were darker than their parent's eggs. I'm thinking that I'll only have 2 to work with this year.
I'm so impressed with my Silkies hatching eggs, I'll probably not use the incubator next year. The hen hatched chicks are so much smarter and heartier than incubated ones.

It is pretty to watch a flock of all the same.
 
I'm so impressed with my Silkies hatching eggs, I'll probably not use the incubator next year. The hen hatched chicks are so much smarter and heartier than incubated ones.
It's statements like these that cause me to sit back and ponder the idea of having a silkie in my flock. I'm not fond of them... but they are cute. How would a single silkie hen do in a small flock of LF birds? I don't have nor do I intend to have a rooster. If I had a silkie, she would have to incubate golf balls, or perhaps foster day old meat birds, the occasional flock replacements, and the occasional batch of purchased eggs.
 
Good question LG. I want to add that I DO have a rooster so I'd be interested in input to LG's question and also in the case of having a rooster around as well.

My ONE light colored SFH with a crest is the bottom of the pecking order. She doesn't stand up for herself at all, and they all target her. She stays to the perimeter of everything and always flees away from everyone. Finally quit trying to get on the roost with the others and has taken to sleeping in a nest box. (When I go out to be sure doors are shut I remove her from the box and put her on the roosts after it's too dark for them to attack her.)

I've wondered if it is the difference in appearance, the crest, etc. Which has made me wonder if a silkie would be treated the same way.

 
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Good question LG. I want to add that I DO have a rooster so I'd be interested in input to LG's question and also in the case of having a rooster around as well.

My ONE light colored SFH with a crest is the bottom of the pecking order. She doesn't stand up for herself at all, and they all target her. She stays to the perimeter of everything and always flees away from everyone. Finally quit trying to get on the roost with the others and has taken to sleeping in a nest box. (When I go out to be sure doors are shut I remove her from the box and put her on the roosts after it's too dark for them to attack her.)

I've wondered if it is the difference in appearance, the crest, etc. Which has made me wonder if a silkie would be treated the same way.


My crested birds are not this way at all.. except the silkies. Silkies always seem to be on the very lowest of the pecking order.

However, I have some silkie crosses, and they are high up there. They are accepted by the head rooster as his girls, so they all treat them with respect.


This is one of the two girls that continuously fly over my dutch doors. The only two that do.. :|
 

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