The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Delisha, You read my mind. Its above zero so I kicked the flock out yesterday and moved water and feed outside. Cleaned out most of the frozen poopsickles. Enough to fill up a cooler! had to be contributing to the cold temp inside the coop.

When I was shooing the hens out, Booster defended one of his hens by attacking me - I tell you there isn't much room to move in the coop so that was interesting. I ended up holding him by the feet upside down and then carried him around for awhile. Poor baby's comb is blistering.

On another thread, someone detailed weeks of care for a rooster with a similiarly frozen comb and wattles. Wattles so swollen the roo stopped eating. Hand feeding. Antibiotic treatment since that rooster's comb was smelly. Debriding the wound, etc. Has anyone had a rooster with badly frostbitten comb and wattles ? I was thinking it would turn black on its own and fall off.

Kigot I can't afford the shavings although if hay keeps going up it'll be cheaper. But they also eat the hay and sort of forage in it. Delish maybe I should try pdz but does it work in subzero

And I am done, done, done with snow.

Remember Margaret? I prevented any such infection by the use of coconut oil. Worked very, very well. It took almost a month for her toes to come off. I did assist one that wasn't falling off and cut it off (on the dead part) she didn't flinch. The way it was out was like a claw, making it difficult for her to relearn to walk. I wanted to see her try the quickest way possible.

her death had no relation to the frostbite except maybe that she couldn't roost and would bed down in a kennel that was somehow infested in mites. I am not sure how she was the only one who had them... I checked everyone in the same barn.. but she did hang out under the baby barn a whole lot. I'm wondering if something is going on under there... The rabbits do as well.

We are in the midst of a blizzard right now. I am not letting the chickens out today. I have some young males who seem to like to stay outside no matter what the temperature. just roosting on a shovel.. So I am not letting them out when it is heavy snow or as cold as it was yesterday. Really there is nothing for them to eat outside right now, so I am not going to risk it in extremes. Anything like today without the snow would be fine. We are getting 35cm of snow up to 50cm. (FYI 50cm is 20 inches).

I'm going to be snow blowing a lot today.. I'll do it more than once because my snow blower is new (on the tractor) and I find it hard to operate if it gets to be too much...

I have my hot chocolate and for now I'm relaxing...
 
I'm in the whole apple eating camp, have eaten seeds and all my entire life and am still kicking. I am also in the "I don't sweat what I feed my chickens" camp. I put the food/scraps out if they eat it they do if they don't they don't. I figure chickens have been alive for millennia w/o my help, they collectively know what they can and can't eat by nature. I think the incidence of an animal eating a NATURAL not man made man sweetened poison is extremely low, especially when they have a choice and are not starving
 
Del mentioned mice.

Has anyone used these in or around the hen houses/runs?

There are a whole group of videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/earthkind2010/videos



http://www.earth-kind.com/faq/
http://www.youtube.com/user/earthkind2010?feature=watch

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You can get it at Menards and local hardware stores too.
http://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Cab-Rodent-Repellent-Pouch/dp/B0021LWPPY
 
PS: I got some and put it where I store my feed but haven't put any in the hen house as of yet. I have seen one distributor that markets and uses it in her hen house. I just wanted to be very sure it wasn't harmful to the birds should they decide to take a taste.
 
On another thread, someone detailed weeks of care for a rooster with a similiarly frozen comb and wattles. Wattles so swollen the roo stopped eating. Hand feeding. Antibiotic treatment since that rooster's comb was smelly. Debriding the wound, etc. Has anyone had a rooster with badly frostbitten comb and wattles ? I was thinking it would turn black on its own and fall off.
I read that whole thread also....seems he/she didn't start with antibiotics until it started to smell. Gangrenous? [quote url=""]
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Okay, my hen is not doing great. She seems to be getting a little better each day, but not a lot and she got into as bad a shape as she was in at the worst so quickly... I don't know what's going on and I've given up on figuring it out b/c she is getting a little better and it doesn't appear to be contagious.

In spite of it not being contagious, I have to keep her separate. Why? B/c my rooster "covers" her every time he sees her and she looks so ragged and doesn't move afterward. I don't know how much he does that when I'm not looking and it seems to have such a "bad" effect on her that I feel like I have to protect her from him and I don't want to do it by chasing him off of or away from her all the time.

B/c I have her separated, I have to dictate what she eats, which has been mostly whole egg scrambled, oats mixed with ecinechea and egg shells, and fermented corn; I feed all this on the ground so that she kind of has to work to get her food and she can scratch for what gets between the bedding; I'm doing that b/c she does seem up to that.

I've got her in the old coop instead of the brooder b/c she seems to move around more in the much, much more space. I put a nursery pot in there with some pine straw, so she can get in there if she's cold.

I've been putting her in the new coop with the flock to sleep at night b/c I don't want her to forget that that's where she belongs and she is part of the flock. I put her up in the top nesting box b/c that's the place in the coop where the rooster is least likely to get to her. I've never seen him "cover" (or even try to "cover") any of the hens inside the coop except her this time that she's sick.

I really want to do this naturally and let nature take its course; if there's something natural I can do to help my chickens fight something bad for them, then I want to help them. I don't want my animals to suffer needlessly and/or die if I can do something to help them fight off an ailment. If they're just weak, then I don't want them to suffer needlessly and extensively and then die anyway.

I know there's no actual question in there; that's because I don't know enough to know what to ask.
If I had to formulate specific questions, they would be:
1. What do you think?
2. What would you do?
 
Have you done a thorough exam?

-Looked at feet and legs? Any sign of bumblefoot or infection in the feet or scaley legs?
-Look for evidence of lice and mites.
-Look at the vent area; any discharge/smell?
-Is she molting?
-Look at her sides/under wings where the rooster's spur might have cut her during mating ... look for any wounds, etc.?

Is it possible to give her a buddy where you're keeping her during the day?
Is she interested in food/eating normally but just can't get to it in the big flock (bottom of pecking order)?
Any discharge from nose or eyes?
 

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