The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

well, I've read contradictory info on which probiotic is best for chickens. The manna pro people even say you shouldn't give them yogurt because they supposedly can't digest the milk sugars. I don't know if I believe that - buttermilk was routinely fed to chickens a few decades ago. And I've never seen any problem with yogurt, cheese, buttermilk, cottage cheese, milk, etc when I've fed to chickens.
Getting off the subject, anyway, Leahs mom recommends http://www.avi-culture-2.com/shop.html

I am currently using one made for dogs and cats, which I ordered sometime ago on Amazon. Its a powder. http://www.amazon.com/Probios-68300...71896&sr=8-1&keywords=probiotics+for+chickens
I know someone who buys a liquid from a GNC store (I guess they are in malls?) and uses that. Personally, I would go for whatever is easiest.

Sometimes it just comes down to money. The lamp is way less than the plate, plain and simple. I always keep my brooder covered, I make sure I get explosion proof bulbs (I had one non explosion proof bulb explode!) and I don't assume the clamp the lamp comes with is reliable - I back up that clamp. Actually I completely stopped using the clamp altogether.

You are supposed to drop the temps 5 degrees each week - for me that meant raising the lamp each week or changing to a bigger brooder (I did both, they grew so much aster than I realized and needed more room!). At the end I also changed to a regular red bulb, the kind that is the shape of the heatlamp bulbs. It was less watts and helped the gradual reduction of heat. Last year I had my chicks outside full time between 6 & 7 weeks but I did not get them til the end of April! I am getting some in a week and a half or so and I have a feeling they will be inside a little longer than that 6 weeks. I will probably have them inside without the light for a couple weeks. Last year we also had regular field trips outside b/c it was warm enough. That may not happen either. Sigh. I wish spring would really get here!
I will try to be sure it stays secure. I need something over the top of the tote soon.....they will be flying out soon I bet. I was surprised when I found out they were already a week old. How long do they have to stay under the light.....I need to figure out a schedule for them with weaning them from the light and decide when I can get them outside....I know its too cold now.

You are welcome and I understand about not fermenting in the cold. I had to stop once we got freezing weather as I have no space indoors to ferment. Check out this thread started by Hennible and we are currently waiting some testing on a new built feeder from a lady I know in Colorado, it has been too cold to ferment.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/931194/fermented-feed-feeder/
 
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I got four chicks at the store today! They are really cute. I don't know which hatchery they come from....my granddaughter picked three aracauna and one RIR. I am not sure about the aracauna but the store lady said that is what they are.....I wonder about them being EE's. They are the chipmunk marked ones. I don't know what I will do when they start flying out of the tote I have them in. I did put a clump od wild grass and moss and sand in with them. Tomorrow I plan to start some ff for them.
 
We had this discussion about EE chicks over on the Indiana thread. RK gets their chicks from Townline Hatchery in MI. They insist they are pure bred, and depending on which store the chicken "expert" there will call them Ameraucana or Araucana. On the website it says they are Araucana Ameraucana-Strain, NOT to be confused with EEs. http://townlinehatchery.com/product/araucana-ameraucana-strain/ But that means they are a cross between the two breeds and therefore NOT purebred right? It is not that important to me, I am getting too many straight run chicks this year so decided I want my EEs to be sexed and am getting whatever they are at RK but calling them EEs. I can't wait to see how they change and feather out in different ways. Okay, I am off that soapbox and going to bed now!

If you get a chance share some pics of your babies! Oh to cover my tote last year I used an old oven rack and a cooling rack. I used zip ties to create a hinge for them on one side. This year I have a tote with a hinged lid. We are cutting out the whole top of the lid and somehow attaching hardware mesh (haven't figure that out yet!).
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They are not auarcana x ameraucana--You can tell right away when they say that they lay pink, brown, green and blue eggs. Both auracana and ameraucana will lay blue eggs.

They are great chickens but they are not even ameraucana culls. They are EEs and are mutts--mutts can be a good thing.
 
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Oh to cover my tote last year I used an old oven rack and a cooling rack. I used zip ties to create a hinge for them on one side. This year I have a tote with a hinged lid. We are cutting out the whole top of the lid and somehow attaching hardware mesh (haven't figure that out yet!).
Cut your hardware cloth about 1/2 inch larger than the hole in your lid (on all sides) or more. Punch holes in the lid about 1/4 inch from the edge. Grab a handful of zip ties and attach... easy peasy.
 
They are not auarcana x ameraucana--You can tell right away when they say that they lay pink, brown, green and blue eggs. Both auracana and ameraucana will lay blue eggs.

They are great chickens but they are not even ameraucana culls. They are EEs and are mutts--mutts can be a good thing.
I can't for the life of me figure out how the hatcheries get away with this. Araucana are rumpless. Ameraucana breed true to color. That being said, I LOVE EE chicks, and if my flock size wasn't so limited, I'd keep at least 6 in my flock at all times. My EE roo is a doll, and an absolute sketch. His great personality kept him out of the crock pot.
 
I put a piece of hardware cloth over the tote. To do that I had to raise the lamp...they seem fine with that....and i think the light is even more secure. I just saw one of them running around with a big piece of the sod. They are happy.

I am curious as to what they are ( breed).....but mutts are fine. I do hope I get some blue or green eggs. But I am pretty sure there is no guaranty with EE's....isn't that right? I will check out the hatchery site above and see what I learn.

Sigh....
The rain, the snow and the sleet!! I just saw Cecily getting iced over waiting in line at the big nest box....finally she climbed in with China. That was the reason for the big trash can nest. I am going to try to find another one. This one was a ground score...I found it and washed it out, taped the hole in it and filled it with straw...they love it. I put a couple of pieces of fire wood in front to help keep the straw from being knocked out so much. I set it under the rhododendron bushes. I just need to remember to check out the nest in the summer before reaching in....don't want to stick my hand into Longfellow's mouth (our resident black snake). And I really don't want to pet a rattlesnake if one decides to stop by for a snack on its way thru the yard. Maybe Joseph the Dirt and his chicken ladies will keep the snakes away...I hope.
 
I put a piece of hardware cloth over the tote. To do that I had to raise the lamp...they seem fine with that....and i think the light is even more secure. I just saw one of them running around with a big piece of the sod. They are happy.

I am curious as to what they are ( breed).....but mutts are fine. I do hope I get some blue or green eggs. But I am pretty sure there is no guaranty with EE's....isn't that right? I will check out the hatchery site above and see what I learn.

Sigh....
The rain, the snow and the sleet!! I just saw Cecily getting iced over waiting in line at the big nest box....finally she climbed in with China. That was the reason for the big trash can nest. I am going to try to find another one. This one was a ground score...I found it and washed it out, taped the hole in it and filled it with straw...they love it. I put a couple of pieces of fire wood in front to help keep the straw from being knocked out so much. I set it under the rhododendron bushes. I just need to remember to check out the nest in the summer before reaching in....don't want to stick my hand into Longfellow's mouth (our resident black snake). And I really don't want to pet a rattlesnake if one decides to stop by for a snack on its way thru the yard. Maybe Joseph the Dirt and his chicken ladies will keep the snakes away...I hope.
Beast Guess is that the hatchery chicks are EEs bred to production reds or something similar. Maybe isa browns or golden comets.
 

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