The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[Leahs Mom]

Wow! What a tiny little cutie!
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[chickiemomy]

re: food for chicks -- I would think that scraps should be a minor part of their diet tho - even if it's ok for them to eat - just sayin'. Been looking at sour crop issues - doesn't look like any fun at all. Cause for sour crop can be too much refined starch - think too much bread or pasta. Mine will get some leftovers that have pasta on occasion, but not cooked for them as a treat, if you know what I mean. Scraps of produce - seem like would be good anytime - I'm referring to other scraps of leftover people food - mine have had chili, sausage, pasta with sauce - but not every day & not a lot...They get fruit & veggie scraps most days, and PLAIN yogurt everyday tho.

hadn't heard onions were bad??? - mine scarf up the tops off my walking onions all the time?? I figure if it's just available in the garden & they eat it, can't be all that bad. I'm trusting them to be somewhat instinctual when it comes to survival, and access to lots of stuff - food deprived, produce deprived is different.

Unrelated question:

What does 'shrink-wrapped' mean w/respect to incubating??? - membrane shrink around chick?? - caused by ? - not enough humidity?

just curious - all the baby chicks you all are posting are sure cuties - as is mumsy's grandson! -

hope you east-coasters are all surviving ok - just heard there's another storm forecast for this coming week?? no fun!

 

[Leahs Mom]

Well, we did it!

I was grateful that we had the "hands-on" demonstration. And...it definitely DOES make you more aware - and grateful for the food we have ... I agree!

 

[Leahs Mom]

Unrelated question:

What does 'shrink-wrapped' mean w/respect to incubating??? - membrane shrink around chick?? - caused by ? - not enough humidity?

And do you all have some photos?

 

[Toast n Jelly]

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Lovely work... this will soften the scab but not remove the infection. You most likely will have to remove the scab and pull the infection capsul out and then follow up with disinfecting and wrapping. I have done a few. Sooner you do it the sooner she will heal and stop the spreading.

Sounds like what you're describing is the way a cyst works. You have to remove the "sack" in there or it just keeps re-filling.

So I wonder if bumble foot is really a type of cyst? Here is the video of the bumblefoot surgery that some of us watched before.

When you watch this - all the way to the end - you'll see why (if it is really the same kind of infection as this is) it wouldn't draw out with just a drawing salve. I hope it doesn't come to this but I'm prepared if need be. I think I'll give it a week and see what happens. Here's the video.

Sorry I couldn't get past the cutting part as that was way too much cutting, very unnecessary.
I loosen right at the scab just at the surface, then get out my tweezers and work the capsule out gently...Very tiny bit of blood. You want to be careful not to hit a vein and have an outpour. The capsule will work out without all that cutting. Sorry I'm a bit in shock at what could be taken as the right way of doing it. I never had a chicken jerk in pain, She was way too far from the cap and cutting into healthy skin.

 

[jockeyeba]

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re: food for chicks -- I would think that scraps should be a minor part of their diet tho - even if it's ok for them to eat - just sayin'.  Been looking at sour crop issues - doesn't look like any fun at all.  Cause for sour crop can be too much refined starch - think too much bread or pasta.  Mine will get some leftovers that have pasta on occasion, but not cooked for them as a treat, if you know what I mean.   Scraps of produce - seem like would be good anytime - I'm referring to other scraps of leftover people food - mine have had chili, sausage, pasta with sauce - but not every day & not a lot...They get fruit & veggie scraps most days, and PLAIN yogurt everyday tho.

hadn't heard onions were bad??? - mine scarf up the tops off my walking onions all the time??  I figure if it's just available in the garden & they eat it, can't be all that bad.  I'm trusting them to be somewhat instinctual when it comes to survival, and access to lots of stuff - food deprived, produce deprived is different.

Unrelated question:

What does 'shrink-wrapped' mean w/respect to incubating??? - membrane shrink around chick?? - caused by ? - not enough humidity?

just curious - all the baby chicks you all are posting are sure cuties - as is mumsy's grandson! -

hope you east-coasters are all surviving ok - just heard there's another storm forecast for this coming week??  no fun!
This is where I read about good & bad stuff for chickens I'm not going to feed them the pasta & I hope it was alright to put this website thing on here

http://fresh-eggs-daily.blogspot.co...paign=Feed:+FreshEggsDaily+(Fresh+Eggs+Daily)






 

[Leahs Mom]

Sorry I couldn't get past the cutting part as that was way too much cutting, very unnecessary.
I loosen right at the scab just at the surface, then get out my tweezers and work the capsule out gently...Very tiny bit of blood. You want to be careful not to hit a vein and have an outpour. The capsule will work out without all that cutting. Sorry I'm a bit in shock at what could be taken as the right way of doing it. I never had a chicken jerk in pain, She was way too far from the cap and cutting into healthy skin.

I'm hoping that's the case...that I can just pull it out. When the cap came off I did try to pull it w/tweezers but it was too soft inside to grab anything. I re-wrapped and will take a look at it again tomorrow to see if I can get it out.

I'm glad to hear that it can come that way!

T&J...pull forward all the way to the end and watch the last minute or so of that video. After they took that plug out there was HUGE piece of infection that came out from way inside under that plug. That's what amazed me about that video - what came out from inside below the plug. Are you able to get all that stuff out of there?

Also wondering if it is somewhat like a cyst in a person. If you don't remove the "sack" or membrane around a cyst it will usually just keep re-filling in the same place. When you've had a bumble foot and were able to pull it out, did it re-infect again at a later time or did it heal and stay that way permanently?

 

[Toast n Jelly]

MB..I hope you recover soon..

Crocks and water do not mix.. I use mine for coop running. They sure wash nice the the dishwasher.

LM..I hope your bandage works and surgery is not needed. I have been fortunate and have no experience in that surgery. Epsom salts have done the trick.


One tiny Silkie..it is soooo small. Half the size of a regular chick

What a little precious....

 

[lalaland]

jockeyba, I'm sorry I missed your question about pasta, yes you can feed them leftover pasta. As country chickiemommy indicated, you want to watch so they get a "balanced diet". Having said that, for years people leftovers are what chickens were fed with corn/scratch - none of this fish/kelp/vitamins/etc that come in the feeds today, and they apparently did just fine. Nutirition is a funny thing, I wouldn't eat most of the food sold in the grocery store today but most people do and seem ok.

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote: I am seriously having problems with my internet provider and now it just won't play but I'll hazard an opinion and say that it would have meant the infection had escaped the capsule and continued towards the top of the foot but I don't know that for sure. I've removed some that started at the bottom and went up onto the top of the foot but incapsulated and not freeform. Re the softness, you would have to explore the outer edges for the skin of the cap. if you can't find one then you're best doing what you're doing with the nustock and see if you can kill it (the infection).

It never ever returned in the ones that had it. That's what I like about the plug or capsule, it retains all of the infection and you will see healthy meat around it. Good luck!