The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[Mumsy]

I probably won't believe anything he says. Who can trust an ape?

Hah! I'm still laughing at this! I'm probably going to use it!

I don't think you caused a riff. I love a good rollicking discussion. It's that or we could all just post pictures of our eggs all day. Curiosity is what makes the world go around.

 

[Sally8]

Hah! I'm still laughing at this! I'm probably going to use it!

I don't think you caused a riff. I love a good rollicking discussion. It's that or we could all just post pictures of our eggs all day. Curiosity is what makes the world go around.

 

[midnightroo]

I agree. I don't think I would ever use kero unless as a last resort, but now I know that it is an option if others are failing. Plus, curiosity is experimentation, without experimentation we would learn nothing new and keep doing the same thing whether it was wrong, or right.

I love the saying. Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought him back.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Problem is we had the conversation about where we came from and he believes from apes. I probably won't believe anything he says. Who can trust an ape?

That is the best line I've heard in a long time! I'm going to steal that one!!!

 

[Elliemae 77]

Hey, what a great thread! I've been skimming since I found you guys and gals last night. My goodness, I don't think I've ever bookmarked so many pages at once. What a wealth of information. Thank-you all for sharing. It's so nice to find like minded people. I'm looking forward to learning all I can. I've had chickens and free ranged them for several years, but have just recently discovered Braggs ACV, and have been feeding FF for about 6 weeks now.

 

[Mumsy]

So...I have a question. Kind of following my propensity to experiment. (The use of toxic substances not involved).

One egg in my incubator has puzzled me first at the seven day candle and yesterday at the fourteen day candle. There is an embryo. My eyesight is too poor to see movement. I have marked this egg with a ? Today is the fifthteenth day and I experimented with the egg floating test. Borrowed this from another thread on BYC but can't remember where.



I ran warm water from my tap and stuck a thermometer in it and when it was holding at 100 degrees, I plopped the questionable egg in.

It floated upright just like on the chart at the 14-18 day collumn.



Now my question is: The chart says that is what an embryo in an egg will float like on those days of incubation. But the embryo I see during candling is like one that quit at six days. Lock down is in three days. I don't want to put a 'quitter' in lock down, but I don't want to toss a good egg either. I've never done the float test. Anyone here done it in a circumstance like this and what was the outcome?

 

[delisha]

If the egg is viable the egg will move in the water. Yes I have done the test just before day 18 if I was not sure. If you are still not sure..it goes in. I have one of those. I can't see in the egg. I think it is unfertilized. I think I see just a dark yolk. Next time I am weighing my dark eggs and porous eggs. That way I will know for sure.

 

[Mumsy]

If the egg is viable the egg will move in the water. Yes I have done the test just before day 18 if I was not sure. If you are still not sure..it goes in. I have one of those. I can't see in the egg. I think it is unfertilized. I think I see just a dark yolk. Next time I am weighing my dark eggs and porous eggs. That way I will know for sure.

Thank you delisha. I didn't wait long enough for the water to get still. I will do the float test again on this egg and two others I'm not sure about the day before lock down. Weighing is a great idea. Need to look in the back of the cupboard and find my scale.

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote: Thank you, that's very kind of you.

 

[aoxa]

Reasons are many for using vetwrap with horses. A huge one is for something we refer to on the track as "rundowns", or competition bandages. Generally also only during racing, or high workout days. The faster a horse goes,or more intense the job asked of a horse, the occurrence of injury or hitting himself with his own hooves becomes great. Another very common occurance with high speed excersice in the horse is called "running down". It occurs more often with hind fetlocks, the horse actually rubs the hair off of the back of his joint, and then a mild or serious burn of the skin can occur against the racetrack surface. Hence the name of the bandages on track being called rundowns. The burn can be serious or severe. Some horses are prone to running down, or hitting themselves due to conformational build, or if a horse that has never run down in the past does run down, it's a sign of emerging soundness issues. Just because a horse wears these, it does not mean it is running with problems, lots of trainers use them as precautionary measure. Here is a picture of the great racemare Zenyatta with a pair of rundown bandages behind. She has tall rundowns on ...

and this horse is wearing short rundowns on his hind fetlocks. If you look closely, you can see the grass rub mark where the horse rubbed his ankle during his race. Most likely the grass was deep and soft as this picture is from England where it rains a lot, and soft turf conditions are commonplace. If this horse wasn't wearing rundowns, he may have burned his skin where that grass stain is on his rundown bandage.

Other uses for vetwrap are to hold bandages in place, and medications on wounds as in this photo of a horse with a foot needing bandaging. Clever addition of duct tape as well..
Since vetwrap is pricey, it tends to be used as only for race day, or when needed medically. For morning exercise works, there are several different material bandages that are used that can be washed and used again, where obviously vetwrap tends to only be used once.

And there is your racehorse/vetwrap lesson for the day...
Sorry Stoney...
MB

Interesting! My vet wrap was cheap though. 2.99$ for a big roll. I could treat a whole lot of feet with what I have, but I guess horses are much bigger

Don't know where y'all got your numbers but you could always move...

Besides, who among us is average?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Wow, I was surprised to see USA so much lower than Canada!

To those of you hatching soon,

You better keep us updated. I'm having chick withdrawal. My last chicks are 4 weeks old.
I guess a broody has a chick.. but still... I like hatching as well

I've been building breeding pens all day, and am very disappointed. It is crooked, and I am not good at framing. I need help!

Delisha, how long till the silkies go in lock down?