The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

I wonder if hand turning makes a difference?
That's a good question. I had an automatic turner with my first LG. It lasted only one hatch and I hated it anyway. I've been hand turning ever since. I turn when I get up in the morning, again at noon, then dinner, and then before I go to bed. Never a real set time but close. I'm very very careful while handling and rotate the eggs around the inside of the bator when I turn. When I candle, I only do half the eggs at a time keeping the other half in the closed bator. I'm really convinced the way I collect, store, and handle the eggs is key too. I set the freshest and cleanest eggs I can. I rarely to never set eggs older than seven days. My bad hatches were usually from eggs that came long distances and I have no idea how old they were to start with.

I love your new silkies Justine. They are so pretty and sweet. Trav's new Blue is so pretty too. I have such a soft spot in my heart for these birds.

Tonight I was in the pea patch and the flock was dogging my steps. I sat outside and shelled peas and threw them to everybody. It took a while for most of the birds to catch on I was giving them goodies. Then it was a free for all! The turkeys wouldn't eat the peas but fought over the shells. The Silkies had a hard time finding the peas but those Catdance cockerels that could see well took most of them. The HRIR decided peas were ok but acted like I was holding out on them and were reluctant to eat many until they saw the layers grabbing them. Chickens teach each other by example I guess. My husband is growing very fond of the turkeys. He gave them sweet cherries tonight and they loved those. I overheard him talking to them when he didn't think I was listening. He's an old softie.
 
Took George back to sue today & got a different hen. I am going to miss George. So gentle and so big for 3 months. Apparently his sire is giant. I sure wish I could of kept him. I loved his colors
Aww - he's very pretty! BCM??

Is anyone noticing their egg production is down when the temps & humidity is high? We had 90s last week and high humidity and I had a day with no eggs. Same thing today. I don't think I haven't not gotten an egg since they first started laying. I have so many water dishes, waterer s out so I know they have enough. And they have plenty of shade. I actually made a larger one this morning for the tots to replace the small one. The big girls don't share their tent much lol
Yes - but then again I have 4 broodies right now - LOL!

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That's a good question. I had an automatic turner with my first LG. It lasted only one hatch and I hated it anyway. I've been hand turning ever since.
Please would you tell me why you don't like automatic turners; what puts you off them? I am just starting on my incubating journey and only done 1 hatch, but very interested in the why's and the wherefore's of the whole subject.
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Please would you tell me why you don't like automatic turners; what puts you off them? I am just starting on my incubating journey and only done 1 hatch, but very interested in the why's and the wherefore's of the whole subject.
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The one that came with my original Little Giant filled the whole insides. It heated up and made keeping the temperature accurate more difficult. It's already difficult to keep the temp in a LG accurate. Also, turning must end around day eighteen or so. Many people call this lock down. To remove all eggs from the turner is a headache. Leaving eggs to hatch out in a turner can be problematic. Messy. Dangerous for chicks, and difficult to sanitize afterwards. I just never wanted to deal with the extra problems after that experience. I've been hand turning ever since and get very good percentages using egg cartons or just the floor of the bator. I still have my old LG but it isn't as reliable as it used to be so I upgraded to a Genesis 1588 and it's done a superb job so far. I've done four successful hatches in it. No automatic turner.
 
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That's a good question. I had an automatic turner with my first LG. It lasted only one hatch and I hated it anyway. I've been hand turning ever since. I turn when I get up in the morning, again at noon, then dinner, and then before I go to bed. Never a real set time but close. I'm very very careful while handling and rotate the eggs around the inside of the bator when I turn. When I candle, I only do half the eggs at a time keeping the other half in the closed bator. I'm really convinced the way I collect, store, and handle the eggs is key too. I set the freshest and cleanest eggs I can. I rarely to never set eggs older than seven days. My bad hatches were usually from eggs that came long distances and I have no idea how old they were to start with.

I love your new silkies Justine. They are so pretty and sweet. Trav's new Blue is so pretty too. I have such a soft spot in my heart for these birds.

Tonight I was in the pea patch and the flock was dogging my steps. I sat outside and shelled peas and threw them to everybody. It took a while for most of the birds to catch on I was giving them goodies. Then it was a free for all! The turkeys wouldn't eat the peas but fought over the shells. The Silkies had a hard time finding the peas but those Catdance cockerels that could see well took most of them. The HRIR decided peas were ok but acted like I was holding out on them and were reluctant to eat many until they saw the layers grabbing them. Chickens teach each other by example I guess. My husband is growing very fond of the turkeys. He gave them sweet cherries tonight and they loved those. I overheard him talking to them when he didn't think I was listening. He's an old softie.
The one that came with my original Little Giant filled the whole insides. It heated up and made keeping the temperature accurate more difficult. It's already difficult to keep the temp in a LG accurate. Also, turning must end around day eighteen or so. Many people call this lock down. To remove all eggs from the turner is a headache. Leaving eggs to hatch out in a turner can be problematic. Messy. Dangerous for chicks, and difficult to sanitize afterwards. I just never wanted to deal with the extra problems after that experience. I've been hand turning ever since and get very good percentages using egg cartons or just the floor of the bator. I still have my old LG but it isn't as reliable as it used to be so I upgraded to a Genesis 1588 and it's done a superb job so far. I've done four successful hatches in it. No automatic turner.
I've heard a lot of long time hatchers share their hate with the turner. For me though, I have to. I work from 7 am - 4:30pm, so I couldn't really turn as faithfully as I'd like.

I do not like those yellow turners. The motors break easily. I've broken two in a year. The company I bought from sent me replacements without asking for the broken motor in return, so I appreciate that much.
 
to the person that asked about the high temps and humidity. Yes the number of eggs I get goes way down. I have not gotten zero, but I have gotten less than half of what they normally laid.
Quote: With the 1588, where do you try to keep the humidity levels? I was typically keeping lockdown humidity close to 75% with my still air LG but the 1588 says not to go above 65%.

I noticed the turner increased the temp a touch too. But with 3 little ones, I'm not always home at the right times or I get lost in time and forget to turn the eggs. The Temp control of the 1588 has drastically helped out in simplifying that aspect of incubating.

Stony ~ How old are you sumatra's when they start to fly? My little one is already trying and its barely 2 weeks old.
 
BDM- yes George is a BCM
thanks sallyininidiana. I really can't blame them for not wanting to lay eggs when its so hot. I mixed up some electrolytes today for everyone. Hopefully they all drink some today.
 
iPad is losing my text when I tab off for pictures.but I wanted to add one fun pic of George. Sorry its off center. He moves quick when I have the camera out
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Is anyone noticing their egg production is down when the temps & humidity is high? We had 90s last week and high humidity and I had a day with no eggs. Same thing today. I don't think I haven't not gotten an egg since they first started laying. I have so many water dishes, waterer s out so I know they have enough. And they have plenty of shade. I actually made a larger one this morning for the tots to replace the small one. The big girls don't share their tent much lol
When your whole group stops laying at the same time there is usually a reason. It is healthy for a hen to stop laying during stressful times. Heat is a big stresser. Having the coop invaded by preds, bugs, moult, or simply changed to a new area is stressful. They use those reserves from egg laying to adjust and survive. They will live longer and lay longer if they stop laying during those times.
BDM- yes George is a BCM
thanks sallyininidiana. I really can't blame them for not wanting to lay eggs when its so hot. I mixed up some electrolytes today for everyone. Hopefully they all drink some today.
great idea on the electrolytes.
 
When your whole group stops laying at the same time there is usually a reason. It is healthy for a hen to stop laying during stressful times. Heat is a big stresser. Having the coop invaded by preds, bugs, moult, or simply changed to a new area is stressful. They use those reserves from egg laying to adjust and survive. They will live longer and lay longer if they stop laying during those times.
great idea on the electrolytes.
Yes, my egg rate has dropped dramatically during the past few weeks. It is so hot, I can't blame them.

I heard on the radio today about how the heat effects humans. Our blood pressure rises, as does our body temperature and our tempers flare.

I think all this talk about electrolytes for the chickens is very important, but remember WE HUMANS need them as well! Especially during our chores! Everyone drink lots of water, and if you can handle the taste of coconut water, drink that instead. It hydrates you way more than water does.

It's 95 today without the humidity. With humidity, it is over 100.. I have the AC going in the office and feel great.

We are getting a mini split for the house.. they are so busy it's going to take 3 weeks and so we are miserable at home. It was 82.4 in the kitchen last night.
 

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