The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

Delisha: I loved your insect repellant list, I saved it to my favorites. I think in the spring, I'll plant some seeds in the skirt of my hoop coop. Perhaps, tansy, marigold, wormwood. Any other recommendations? I've been battling red mites in my coop for the past month. I think and hope that the problem is under control. I hope to start building up DL again for the winter.

Borax is a useful product. For about 50 cents, you can make a quart of borax sugar solution for ant control which is similar to exorbitantly priced "Terro." But my preferred ant control is to open up a nest with a garden fork, and turn a few zealous hens loose on it. (much to my husband's dismay!) Borax is also useful for correcting boron deficiencies in the garden. If your root crops are not growing well, that may be the problem. I'll leave it up to the reader to do the research on this topic. I personally would not use borax on animals, or where animals/people would come in contact with it.

Re: fleas and ticks: Since getting chickens this year, I've noticed a huge drop in these pests. Last summer, I had to treat my 2 cats monthly with Advantage + to keep fleas under control. Even though that product is supposed to control ticks, it didn't touch them. I was pulling at least several, and up 5 ticks off the cats each week. This year with the increased rain, is supposedly a worse year. I've only seen a few ticks on the cats all summer. I've only seen a couple of fleas. I'll treat the cats as a precaution around the first killing frost, just to be sure they don't bring in any hitch hikers for the winter. Re: ground insects, there's been a huge drop in populations, especially grass hoppers and crickets. The girls have just about wiped out my snail population, and are making a huge dent in the slug population. The only slugs they won't eat are the huge brown ones. (They are bigger than my thumb.) And next spring, when all those little brown babies hatch out, the girls will eat them before they get a chance to get big. (YUM!) The girls have performed far better than expected for pest control!
 
maybe get the chickens their own doghouse. LOL no joke. I have 2. dog's never been in either. I use them for babies when they go outside (with heat lamp) and one the hens use now and then for eggs when broodies try to take over the regular nests and not share.
you may have the right ideal . thank you 'all opinion's and info. are appreciated.
 
Ok no laughing but I am a bit confused. :)

We have never had fleas before and as of last Friday they are everywhere.

I have had DE in the carpet since then but it doesn't seem all that effective. I was thinking of adding Borax to all the carpeted areas but all this talk of Boric Acid has me wondering if that is what I should be using. We have two Large dogs, two cats and a bunny that frequent the house tho and I would worry about them walking in it and then cleaning their paws. The rabbit will go outside for any treatment anyway.

Will the plain old borax work? By Monday I gave in and treated everyone with Advantage $200 worth of poison :( but I will not spray or bomb my house with that stuff.

BTW the Blue Dawn bath really works.
 
Delisha: I loved your insect repellant list, I saved it to my favorites. I think in the spring, I'll plant some seeds in the skirt of my hoop coop. Perhaps, tansy, marigold, wormwood. Any other recommendations? I've been battling red mites in my coop for the past month. I think and hope that the problem is under control. I hope to start building up DL again for the winter.

Borax is a useful product. For about 50 cents, you can make a quart of borax sugar solution for ant control which is similar to exorbitantly priced "Terro." But my preferred ant control is to open up a nest with a garden fork, and turn a few zealous hens loose on it. (much to my husband's dismay!) Borax is also useful for correcting boron deficiencies in the garden. If your root crops are not growing well, that may be the problem. I'll leave it up to the reader to do the research on this topic. I personally would not use borax on animals, or where animals/people would come in contact with it.

Re: fleas and ticks: Since getting chickens this year, I've noticed a huge drop in these pests. Last summer, I had to treat my 2 cats monthly with Advantage + to keep fleas under control. Even though that product is supposed to control ticks, it didn't touch them. I was pulling at least several, and up 5 ticks off the cats each week. This year with the increased rain, is supposedly a worse year. I've only seen a few ticks on the cats all summer. I've only seen a couple of fleas. I'll treat the cats as a precaution around the first killing frost, just to be sure they don't bring in any hitch hikers for the winter. Re: ground insects, there's been a huge drop in populations, especially grass hoppers and crickets. The girls have just about wiped out my snail population, and are making a huge dent in the slug population. The only slugs they won't eat are the huge brown ones. (They are bigger than my thumb.) And next spring, when all those little brown babies hatch out, the girls will eat them before they get a chance to get big. (YUM!) The girls have performed far better than expected for pest control!

Thank you..and great job girls!!

Plant these..when they no longer look beautiful, toss them in the coop

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I also toss in all citrus peels..
 
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I never said that this thread was not to my design liking. Don't read something not there. I was agreeing that it is such a great topic and so vast that it should be a whole section of its own because obviously lots of people subscribe to the thread. In other words-wow what a great idea for a topic-it is huge-it is obviously successful! That's complaining? I think NOT!

X2!! Love this thread! I just feel so lost when I come back to it after only a few days because there are pages and pages and pages of posts. I don't want to miss anything, but I might like to just quickly see what new topics have been brought up since I last checked in and have an easy way to see if any new comments have been made on some ongoing discussions I'd been following without having to skim 3 pages to do it. Not that that isn't fun! But sometimes I can't find time to be on the computer until the wee hours of the morning, and my DH chastises me if I come to bed after 2am.

And so I wondered why it isn't its own section, since it's so huge and obviously popular. Same information, just organized differently so it would be easier for me to follow. Obviously, that's JMO, and I wasn't intending to sound like I was complaining or demanding by asking the question, just thinking that if I felt that way, maybe other people did too, and wondering if there was a reason I didn't know about for why it is the way it is. Sorry to offend.

Regarding the "natural" thread being long...

Just a heads-up that you can search the thread with terms you're looking for pretty easily to find things that have been discussed in the past quickly.

At the top of the thread you see the title. Right under it are several links. Click on "Search this Thread" and you can search for terms in this thread only. If you further click on the "advanced" after you're in there, there are more options like searching for all posts by a particular individual, etc.

Hope that's helpful!


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Thanks for the tip. It is helpful to know how to do that!
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BORIC ACID IS POISON -REPEAT- BORIC ACID IS POISON

Please don't use it around your chickens. It has a place in certain treatments and you can use it in the carpet like I said earlier. However, don't take a risk with your birds.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/ency/articles/boric-acid-poisoning
http://pennstatehershey.adam.com/content.aspx?productId=117&pid=1&gid=002485

Boric acid is not the same as Borax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boric_acid

NO ONE is recommending the use of boric acid on chickens.

BORAX - a powder easily obtained in many grocery store laundry detergent aisles - is useful in flea control.
It works by drying the eggs. It needs to be in contact with the flea eggs to do that. Sprinkling it down and vaccuming it up right away is counter productive to that process.
There are some concerns with it's use as a food additive, and it's use as a food additive is banned in the US.
 
Ok I was not going to get into the Borax - Boric acid debate..but I am going to add my two cents.


They are both toxic and as long as you are aware of what you are doing and using there should be no problem. I use both and would never put them directly on an animal or my kids. I would use it in soap to lower the PH and wash birds or other animals. I would make sure I knew what I was doing.

Borax,
sodium tetraborate decahydrate, according to one study, is not acutely toxic.[22] Sodium tetraborate decahydrate was once registered as an insecticide for a brief period; however, the product was issued a "Danger" signal word by the EPA. Registration was allowed to lapse after the initial one year registration due to the fact the product could not be legally sold over the counter as an insecticide due to the dangers the product posed to the general public. Danger is the highest level signal word issued by the EPA. Its LD50 (median lethal dose) score is tested at 2.66 g/kg in rats:[23] a significant dose of the chemical is needed to cause severe symptoms or death. The lethal dose is not necessarily the same for humans.
Sufficient exposure to borax dust can cause respiratory and skin irritation. Ingestion may cause gastrointestinal distress including nausea, persistent vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea. Effects on the vascular system and brain include headaches and lethargy, but are less frequent. "In severe poisonings, a beefy red skin rash affecting palms, soles, buttocks and scrotum has been described. With severe poisoning, erythematous and exfoliative rash, unconsciousness, respiratory depression, and renal failure."[24]
Borax was added to the Substance of Very High Concern (SVHC) candidate list on 16 December 2010. The SVHC candidate list is part of the EU Regulations on the Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals 2006 (REACH), and the addition was based on the revised classification of Borax as toxic for reproduction category 1B under the CLP Regulations. Substances and mixtures imported into the EU which contain Borax are now required to be labelled with the warnings "May damage fertility" and "May damage the unborn child".[25]
 
Tonight I was mowing lawn and my grand daughters came running to me crying that the chick was stuck under the arm. How were we going to get it out? Thankfully, my DIL was taking pictures. lol. A third chick hatched nearly a week after the other 2. I had put the egg in the incubator, so after the chick was fully dry I stuck it under her and so far she's taken to it too. I was worried today, being day 1 that it was too cold for the new born. So far, so good.




 

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