The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

You know....

this crazy cold (especially in Canada for aoxa) drives one to extremes when you have to go to work all day and you're messing around with water early in the morning and it has to keep thawed all day long somehow.
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Aoxa...
I've long thought about the winter water issue if I had a large barn like yours with LOTS of birds to water. This is what I "think" I'd do if I had those circumstances and weather like we do.

-I've thought I'd put in a circulating water system using something like a pond pump like they use for the little waterfalls.

-I'd use some kind of trough for the actual drinking containers that is narrow enough that they aren't getting wattles into it...but long enough for the numbers of birds I had in each pen/area.

-I'd use hose or pipe to connect the troughs from "room to room" or "trough to trough" and keep the water pumping in a circle with a drum of water feeding it.

-The drum would have the heater in it...probably an aquarium heater that you can keep good and warm...

-The hose or pipe connected to the drum would exit near the bottom and I'd fill it manually from the top during winter.


Not having done this I'd have to tweak it to make sure that everything was circulating correctly, of course.

But...since I don't have a large barn and lots of birds I haven't worked on one. As always, just pondering.
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PS and ETA: Seems like I remember that (Fowlman?) may have been doing something like this but his drinking station was a bucket with the nipples. Whoever it was used an aquarium heater and a pump to keep the water circulating...and whoever it was traveled so they were gone sometime a few days in a row and needed something that would keep the water without a lot of attendance on their part.
All that sounds awesome :) In due time.

Right now what I am doing for pens is using these waterers (non-heated)
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I got them for $6.99 on amazon with free shipping - note only in Canada is it this cheap.. They cost $19.99 on Amazon.com. They are thick, so it does not freeze as quickly as other waterers I've used, and when it does freeze, the containers don't crack. I put these in there in the morning, and remove at night. I can still open them when they freeze unlike some waterers.. So I get the frozen stuff out, clean off and refill. repeat.

For the big pen where the duck and geese are they get a rubber dish. I need something they can clean their eyes out in. The chickens drink this water even if I have other drinking areas.. I don't bother anymore..

Note that my water takes a while to freeze if I have the big door closed. Even with -20 it's only slushy at the end of the day. I love insulation. lol
 
You know....

this crazy cold (especially in Canada for aoxa) drives one to extremes when you have to go to work all day and you're messing around with water early in the morning and it has to keep thawed all day long somehow.
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Hey, my extremes are NOTHING this year compared to those in Minnesota!

We haven't gone past -40 with windchill.

Today it's +40. lol
 
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Here is what my girls have been up to since it is finally 32 (F) degrees here!!!! They actually are outside-- OUTSIDE OF THE RUN! and dustbathing! I provided a dustbathing area inside the run but I never see them use it.... guess they would rather scratch up their own frozen bare spot to dust-bathe in!





The red one actually has some "no-pick" on here so excuse her greasy look! (There are actually 3 of them involved in this dust bath!!!!!)I separated the aggressive one a couple of days ago and was going to wait another day or so to add her back in.... I felt terrible pulling her out but I had to do something! I know have the boys' video baby-monitor in there-- I can watch the roosts and parts of the floor area-- just trying to see if I have any more getting nasty or not! The perk is I get to hear the announcement when an egg has been laid! When my OES is in and the chickens are making so much noise he gets all worked up and has to go out and check on them!
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Just wanted to share my eggs. Sophie the BCM eggs are getting darker :) :) So excited to see if Lucy the BCM/EE mix eggs will be darker as well. I don't think Edie's eggs are going to get any bigger. She is tiny so pullet size is good for her
 
I have a rooster (my very best) who has always sneezed when he is eating. Never otherwise, just when he's eating. I dry feed usually. Do you think he has an allergy? Maybe it's just the dust? Has anyone ever had this happen? He is 8 months old, the dominant rooster, appears strong and healthy.
 
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Take it a step further and use a couple of hundred gallon stock tanks and put tilapia in them and you've got an aquaponics system that you can grow veggies above too. ;-)

Do you think the fish would carry any pathogens that would bother the chickens? I've often wondered this as I have a rain barrel set up with fish. I've heard that trout work better in northern climates. I would LOVE to have a nice sized green house with an aquaponic system to augment poultry. Think how an active system like that would affect the grocery bill!

my chickens often sneeze when chowing dry feed.
 
Mine didn't drip either.  Just dropped too much water when the birds tripped the triggers.  They weren't able to drink everything that dropped so onto the litter it went. 

I even put pans under them to catch the water and they'd get full.

But..in the end, I decided that I didn't want to use that kind of waterer whether I had that problems or not.  I wanted to give them something they could drink from in a more natural position to a bird.

Just my experience...but I've heard of others having wet litter constantly under them also..and the folks in the photo above seem to be experiencing it too :p


I thought the terra cotta pots under the nipples with a bolt through the hole to run any drips down into the ground was intriguing. Bellehumeur is doing that.
 

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