The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

[Turk Raphael]

For a long time, butchering horses for human consumption was against the law in this country but Obama recently must have choked out an executive order making it legal again.

Where I buy mine, the meat is not considered safe for human consumption (died in the field..etc) and it is heavily scraped with charcoal to let folks know what it is.

On the other hand, that charcoal COULD be easily washed off. But fortunately, things aren't that bad for us yet...

but let me assure you, I get big chunks of red meat (no bones unless requested and they are free) and before I went hungry, I'd be eating horse meat (with just a hint of charcoal)...Heck, nothing better than car-broiled steak! Some of those chunks weigh ten to 15 pounds. I feed it raw but If someone (was in dire need of meat protein) A thin slice off each side of these 'roasts' and the only thing that would throw some folks off would be the fact that horse meat is sweeter than beef and the fat is yellow, due to the fact that their diet is mostly grass.

I just might give the 'test' sometime...

We've eaten horse meat in a restaurant and we both like it. It was priced on par with beef and in some cases, it cost a bit more than beef.

I pay $1.50 per pound for what's intended for dog food and I suspect they will be getting it All for quite sometime but I know I will have to try it...somewhere down the line.

Heck...It might make me run faster...





Turk

 

[Lacy Blues]

I don't think I would want to eat one that died out in the field and was found some time later... no thanks. If it died while I was there though, that's a different matter altogether. Or if was slaughtered with the intent of being eaten... all the more power to us!

If you find out that you CAN run faster, be sure and let us know ok? We'll hold races and place bets! Then we'll share the booty with you!

 

[Turk Raphael]

I don't think I would want to eat one that died out in the field and was found some time later... no thanks. If it died while I was there though, that's a different matter altogether. Or if was slaughtered with the intent of being eaten... all the more power to us!

If you find out that you CAN run faster, be sure and let us know ok? We'll hold races and place bets! Then we'll share the booty with you!

Eat one found dead...NO, NO, NO....But good enough for dogs, if it passes the 'smell test'...

Frankly, before I ever eat horse meat again, I'd likely acquire a small young one, bring it home and treat it the way the Japanese do their Kobe Beef. The trouble with that prospect, It would be cheaper to buy the beef! But for an 'experiment'....I think I know a couple guys who might be willing to go along with us ....just to find out what we could do with it. All four parties like horse meat.

Dad tells me there is a place in Italy that specializes in preparing jackass meat. No kidding! I guess it would be something like horse but I'm not interested enough search it out.

Small to mid-sized horses, POA's and the like are 'dime-a-dozen' around here.


Turk

 

[ronott1]

For a long time, butchering horses for human consumption was against the law in this country but Obama recently must have choked out an executive order making it legal again.

Where I buy mine, the meat is not considered safe for human consumption (died in the field..etc) and it is heavily scraped with charcoal to let folks know what it is.

On the other hand, that charcoal COULD be easily washed off. But fortunately, things aren't that bad for us yet...

but let me assure you, I get big chunks of red meat (no bones unless requested and they are free) and before I went hungry, I'd be eating horse meat (with just a hint of charcoal)...Heck, nothing better than car-broiled steak! Some of those chunks weigh ten to 15 pounds. I feed it raw but If someone (was in dire need of meat protein) A thin slice off each side of these 'roasts' and the only thing that would throw some folks off would be the fact that horse meat is sweeter than beef and the fat is yellow, due to the fact that their diet is mostly grass.

I just might give the 'test' sometime...

We've eaten horse meat in a restaurant and we both like it. It was priced on par with beef and in some cases, it cost a bit more than beef.

I pay $1.50 per pound for what's intended for dog food and I suspect they will be getting it All for quite sometime but I know I will have to try it...somewhere down the line.

Heck...It might make me run faster...





Turk

I will have to check, but I think there is a State statute against selling or even processing horse meat in California.

 

[Lacy Blues]

I think you're right Ron. I seem to remember hearing about that. Doesn't make sense to me!

 

[ronott1]

I think you're right Ron. I seem to remember hearing about that. Doesn't make sense to me!

I know!

The State was trying to stop horses from being sold in Mexico from California too.

 

[ronott1]

Wiki says:

California Proposition 6 (1998) was passed by state voters, outlawing the possession, transfer, reception or holding any horse, pony, burro or mule by a person who is aware that it will be used for human consumption, and making the slaughter of horses or the sale of horsemeat for human consumption a misdemeanor offense.[104]
Until 2007, a few horse meat slaughterhouses still existed in the United States, selling meat to zoos to feed their carnivores, and exporting it for human consumption, but the last one, Cavel International in Dekalb, Illinois, was closed by court order in 2007.[105][106] The closure reportedly caused a surplus of horses in Illinois.[107]
On November 18, 2011, the ban on the slaughter of horses for meat was lifted as part of the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2012.[108]

 

[armorfirelady]

Thanks for the info Turk. They are on dry feed but I order it from a holistic company and I actually know what all the ingredients are in it they were on lamb but I switched proteins to chicken. I'm hoping that helps as well. It was a horrible allergy season here for people and pets and I believe that's a big reason why his hot spots are so bad. He loves to roll in the grass :/ But the temps have cooled off and today I didn't notice as much scratching. I'm hoping he will continue to improve since I doubt it's going to warm up again till May. The plaintain salve is ready for application shortly. I want to give my other dog a bath first since the wood stove has warmed up the house nicely.

My friend and I worked on making the pop door entrance way cover today.,

We didn't end up doing it the way I thought but this way def worked out better. The lean to that held the water & feed is now a pernament part of the 'breezeway'. I can use the bottom half of the coop to make a new summer water holder I even had enough plexiglass laying around that the backside of both structure are covered in it. Lots of light in their breezeway but protection from elements. I'm hoping next spring to get the nasturtium vine to grow up it.

The little door is in the first part of the breezeway. This was the top half of the mini coop. The last pic is of the slide door that had the ramp on it. I won't use it to let the girls in and out but if I needed to catch a hen I could with the door open I might. End up putting a piece of plexiglass glass over it to let more light in. I can close the door and keep the hens out of the veggie garden. Yet gives them an area to go into for a tiny amount of extra space. We covered the structure at the other end of the coop that s over where the pop door is now. I used shower liner. When the electric fence comes down I can close the door on it and they can use it as extra space for winter. It's not a lot but every little bit helps I need to take a pic of the backside where the plexiglass glass is. It will get the sun as it sets so should help on keeping that area warmer. Their heated dog bowl & waterer will be placed in the long open structure. I plan on putting plastic across 3/4 of it to keep snow out. But I need to move the pop door and get the feeder & waterer in first.

The best part is it only cost me my time. I had everything here to make them

 

[Turk Raphael]

I think you're right Ron. I seem to remember hearing about that. Doesn't make sense to me!

We saw a 'Special Report' not too long ago, and that's how I was familiar with the reversal of the ban. I've been getting the meat for about 10 weeks and I think it is good savings and good for the dogs to.

I do mix in about 3 or 4 cups of Purina ONE with lamb in order to keep up the vitamin and mineral process and they each get a new bone every week or so....always change both at the same day so neither will 'feel slighted'. lolol

Turk

 

[Turk Raphael]

I will have to check, but I think there is a State statute against selling or even processing horse meat in California.

Thanks Ron. I don't imagine importing any horses from California but it will be good to have the information, especially if someone helps by putting in the research time, something you have always seemed more than happy to do...Thanks again!!!


Turk