The Next Depression?

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I'm a born again beliver and believe that Jesus is coming soon. You can hear His footsteps on the clouds. You know the Bible said and when we see these things come to pass, look up for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:28. We shouldn't fear, for we have the Blessed Hope and that is Jesus Christ. Come quickly Lord Jesus, Come Quickly! I'm getting excited, how bout' you?
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Its coming the depression i mean Got an interesting emai this morning from my sister it concerns buying gas. I am totally with her when she says she doesnt want to line the pockets of people in the middle east who want to kill us. She sent me a list of companies that do not get their foil form the middle east. it is listed in the department of energy. Maybe we have to use gasoline but why not buy it from companies that do not do business with the middle east or south america. If evrybody stopped buying gas from them things would have to change. This is a better plan than stopping buying gas for three days. The only ones suffering is the company doiung business with the middle east. jmho
 
Forget recession...we are looking at a depression! The fact is that we middle class to poverty level people are the ones getting slammed. Sure increase the gas prices, food etc. But do we see an increase in wages to support this cost of living increase. Heck no! I don't think we will ever see .75 cent gas ever again, or even $2.00 for that matter. Until we small fish get a break we have to keep bailing water or drown. I don't know about ya'll but I've been drowing for a while now.
Yes I'm worried about what's coming. I'm worried about the fact that we may all be sitting on our porches with a shotgun protecting what is ours. This country can't keep going like it's been going. And there isn't much hope as far as presidential nominees go. We are at the mercy of those who have the money and power. As far as I see it it will be every man/woman for themselves before too long.
 
I think that one way we can all help is to try and support the small companies as uch as we can. For example, on the rare occasions that I buy books these days (as opposed to borrowing them or trading them on C-list) I buy from a small, mom-and-pop bookstore. Sure I pay a little more, but I know that I am giving a local company money.

Spending your money on small, locally-based businesses gives those business owner money to spend at OTHER local businesses. It keeps the money within the community.

I really, really think we are going to start seeing the barter system coming back. You know, trading goods for goods, rather than trading money for goods? For example, I have a deal with my mom, where she trades me a half gallon of milk for a dozen eggs. The fellow across the street trades me coffee for eggs.

And once my veggies take off, I'll have veggies to trade, too. In fact, I've planted veggies that I HATE, because they're easy to grow and give high yeilds, like beets and radishes. I plan to trade them for other things I need.

But like I said... our utter dependency on oil is going to kill us. We must find other options. Mandatory car pools. Company buses that pick up the employees at their homes! We do it for school kids, why not for businesses???
 
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Glad to hear a good, non biased, opinions on biofuel. I get so turned off by the "bio
is gonna save the world crowd". I get equally angry with the "lets pump all the
oil we can out the ground crowd". Politics are getting in the way of real progress.
Like Rosalind said hopefully the cost of oil will drive true progress.

Hope to post more later when I have time...


Don

I agree wiith you about getting angree with people thinking that bio will save the world but we do need to look into better alternatives. Also what is going on is now gas stations are watering down the gas which is bad. My moms car was sputtering and stalling when she picked up cheap watered down gas. the clutch would slip. But when she went to the more exspensive places her car was fine.

I'm not sure that gas, whether it is as you call "watered down" or not has anything to do with your clutch. you may want to find a good mechanic before your clutch goes out.

I am interested in different types of fuels, but recognize the drawbacks for the ones available currently. I think it is a shame that the oil companies have the government in their back pocket enough to run the country bankrupt.
 
We know it was the gas. The engine would rev up becuase of the water and then rev down. When we went to our trusted gast station we have not had problems for over a month. We will stick with the local GS
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I also would love to see what new fuels they will try to come up with but the government has to look into solar energy and other things that will help with the future
 
Awww, PC. I'm not sure if I should blush or slap you for thinking I was some uneducated, unshaven hippie chick...

Anyways, I can see why you're having failures in the field equipment. Regular diesel, especially from coal (I know, the newer kind is from petroleum and doesn't have this issue, but for the longest time stuff DID use coal diesel), has a lot of fine dust in it: carbon black, bits of metal flakes and some other metals used as anti-knock stuff and engine treatments and what have you. In regular diesel, which maintains a fairly constant viscosity at lower temps, all this stuff sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank/lines/pumps and then stays more or less out of the way of the actual combustion chamber or piston. The carbon black and the dissolved metals are initially soluble enough or fine enough in the diesel that they can pass through the filters, to some extent. Biodiesel, at lower temps than the typical operating temp of the engine, is way more viscous. Any solids in it tend to stay floating around, and therefore if they are not filtered out end up in the combustion chamber. Higher viscosity combined with the manufacturing process (liquid/liquid separation decanting of bio vs. distillation of petroleum-based diesel) means that there will be more water left in the biodiesel, and that is not a happy thing for engines either. It also means that there is a wee bit more compression required to make it go bang, and this is only partially remediated by the improved lubricity. That's where you can see some loss of mileage/efficiency. However, that said, from an engineering perspective this is a fairly trivial problem to solve, whereas the major problems of "Where'd all the oil go?" and "Why are our politicians a bunch of idiots?" are apparently insurmountable.
 
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I like red cheeks.
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I never for once thought you were even close to uneducated or
unshaven and I have plenty of close friends I love who are hippie chicks.
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Actually with what little I know about you I can say you are intellegent, well informed,
and unique. Most people in engineering can't turn a screwdriver, and, to be fair, most
people in field service(like me) can't add, spell or turn on a computer.
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I need to read your post a few more times to absorb it all. I am not too proud to say
I'm learning a lot here and will be better prepared next time I encounter a bio fueled
engine.
 
Well since it appears that the general population is going to vote based on looks and public speaking prowess instead of the best candidate for the job of turning this sinking ship around, I'll refrain.

Brazil has the right idea, they use alternative fuel, ethanol. their sugar cane-based industry is far more efficient than the U.S. corn based industry.Distillers are able to produce ethanol for about $0.90 a gallon or less.

In the US ..Fl, TX and LA are able to produce sugarcane.

Then there's Hemp, it has endless uses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxd64t6H3_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJePiS7A7lo
Hemp is another word for the plant Cannabis sativa L. Marijuana comes from this same plant genus -- and so do broccoli and cauliflower. But the strains of hemp used in industrial and consumer products contain only a negligible level of the intoxicating substance THC. Thus, industrial grade hemp is not marijuana.

Hemp is the most useful and beneficial plant in nature.One acre of Hemp can produce 1000 gallons of methanol in a single growing season and It's also self sustainable.

and it works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Am3yUDt3M

it also can be used for animal feeds.

Something has to change and people need to wake up and see whats coming. We cant keep using corn for ethanol because it drives up the price of corn, which costs the farmer more money to raise animals, which drives up food prices and it just snowballs.

putting on my tinfoil hat and filling my freezer and shelves with my homegrown food supply
 
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