The "old fashion" method...why not use it???

[stuckinthecity]

Instead of wet rags, you could always just spray the eggs with water? before work, and after work. I like this post though, I've thought the same time, many times. The people in Egypt just had rooms with heat, and they were successful hatching eggs.

 

[canada-goose]

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Um, no, you really aren't that new.

 

[FenDruadin]

LOL--You've been here way longer than I have. I'm just gonna blame it on mommy brain. Sorry!

 

[Kojack]

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mmm.... if I saw a huge gap in hatch rates, I would probably look at what I did, examine the eggs that didn;t make it(to see what went wrong) and then try it again after fixing things up a bit. After that, I would see which had a better hatch rate; box and lamp or incubator. Then I would know whether simple is worse or better than more precise. Does that answer your question?

so then if you are examining what went right and wrong and subsequently "fixing things up a bit" then we are Increasing a level of technology. This is exactly why we now have incubators. we have them because people wanted to "fix things up a bit and make it simpler and better the next time. I understand that you wish to go a simpler way with hatching, but that is where we are with technology now... the simpler way. Just because it plugs into a wall and controls humidity, and probably has a circuit board doesn't mean it is less complicated. I won't get into the morality of doing our best with eggs because it gets into a realm I wouldn't want to address here. But when Technology (albeit expensive) makes hatching eggs easier to do with greater reliability and greater yields, I submit it is less complex! and isn't that really the old fashioned way? make it simple and do it right...

 

[77horses]

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mmm.... if I saw a huge gap in hatch rates, I would probably look at what I did, examine the eggs that didn;t make it(to see what went wrong) and then try it again after fixing things up a bit. After that, I would see which had a better hatch rate; box and lamp or incubator. Then I would know whether simple is worse or better than more precise. Does that answer your question?

so then if you are examining what went right and wrong and subsequently "fixing things up a bit" then we are Increasing a level of technology. This is exactly why we now have incubators. we have them because people wanted to "fix things up a bit and make it simpler and better the next time. I understand that you wish to go a simpler way with hatching, but that is where we are with technology now... the simpler way. Just because it plugs into a wall and controls humidity, and probably has a circuit board doesn't mean it is less complicated. I won't get into the morality of doing our best with eggs because it gets into a realm I wouldn't want to address here. But when Technology (albeit expensive) makes hatching eggs easier to do with greater reliability and greater yields, I submit it is less complex! and isn't that really the old fashioned way? make it simple and do it right...

Good point...so it's like you start off with a plastic box and lamp, it doesn't work, so you adjust it, and after that you want better results and you change things, and you do this over and over until you finally get it right. By then, you probably already have fone from plastic box and lamp to an incubator.

 

[walkswithdog]

I agree with those that say the plastic box - became the incubator, which it always does if you keep trying to "fix" what went wrong with the box and hatch rates.

And saying you're LOOKING at an unhatched chick to SEE what went wrong... ummm that isn't going to yield a LOT of info unless you're a scientist or vet and have lab equipment. LOOK it's dead. Barring any obvious deformity caused by EITHER genetics or your equipment, you aren't going to know what's wrong, only about when it happened. And you can't tell looking at it if it WAS genetics or your equipment - so NO information at all really except it's dead. That's not an experiment. You can't get any data except time of death and deformity or not.

I don't think unborn chicks suffer but I think playing around with what doesn't work is wasteful. Zero to 30% hatch rate, time and time again, is beating a dead horse to no good end. It's not simple, it's wasteful.

People streamlined incubator construction to make it reliable and constructive and useful - simple.

Progress happened for a reason. Used properly good and great hatch rates happen. Less waste. Less death.

Simple.