The Old Folks Home

[perchie.girl]

On a farm with big barns, i.e. 5-10 thousand birds, they bring in a foam machine, foam the building to suffocate the birds, bulldoze them to the center and compost them in place paying special attention to the temperature of the pile. The AI is killed at hot compost temperatures.

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It may sound cruel but it is more humane than letting them die of the disease.

wow.... I understand the process now.... and agree. But to the lay person it would be horrifying. thank goodness its done under lock-down conditions and of course those places have bio-security in place any way so no accidental visitors.

deb

 

[perchie.girl]

I don't think I'll ever get over the images from the hoof and mouth disease outbreak in the UK.

-Kathy

I remember that.... then Mad Cow....

deb

 

[casportpony]

Quote: All disturbing images!

-Kathy

 

[Alaskan]

We have a ton of slate and granite just a few inches under the soil here (and sometimes less than that - I have one patch of "lawn" that's flat rock). When I had my fence built they had to bring in a device to drill down into the slate and then concrete and pin in the posts. Last year when we planted apple trees we couldn't find a good spot for the last tree on account of not being able to get down far enough due to the large rocks. So although the pipe idea sounds great, it isn't feasible.

Yep, I know what you mean... I have spoiled... there is very little rock at my place up here in Alaska... but back on the home place it is solid rock.

It was funny, a couple of years back I was there and helping my parents, and my mom wanted to plant two little bushes, I told my dad (not doing well physically), that it would only take 10 to 15 minutes to plant the two bushes since I would help.

I kept shifting the shovel around, but could not find a single spot to start that didn't have a rock.... then I had to bring out the giant metal rod to crack the rocks, take out the rock parts, shovel a tiny bit of dirt, break another rock. repeat OVER and OVER and OVER. Luckily, the rocks there are almost all limestone, so breakable with a giant heavy metal rod.

And it was a little bitty hole that I had to dig

like about 8 inches across and a foot deep.

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it is an awesome place to sell.

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I am with you... totally.... but... I shouldn't talk politics

 

[superchemicalgirl]

Same thing here. I even have problems finding places to throw poles into the ground - we put up poles every year to show us where to plow and where to watch out (we also have rock piles) and sometimes I have to be creative to get them into the ground. The suet feeder is located where it is because of so many rocks just below the surface. Our rocks aren't little piddly ones either that you could crack and get out, we're talking hard rocks the size of boats.

It was another spectacularly bad week here... the rental car is now on the fritz. The company says "oh just keep driving it, it's fine" but I'm pretty sure the car is supposed to turn off when you turn it off and remove the key, and not 10 seconds later after it shudders to off. Also the "maintenance required" light is on but the company tells me it just needs an oil change. Oh and the engine revs when I step on the brake.

 

[Alaskan]

wow... those are scary "maybe the car will kill me" kind of things.... just sayin'

 

[Alaskan]

oh, and about the rocks... not sure how you manage with the "impossible to break without high tech equipment or dynamite" rocks... the giant slabs of limestone are bad enough.

 

[RobJones]

I don't think I'll ever get over the images from the hoof and mouth disease outbreak in the UK.

-Kathy

In the early 60's there was an outbreak of hoof and mouth disease in the UK (same one maybe Kathy) I worked for a plant hire company and we were contracted by the government to dig the holes to bury the animals, not a pretty sight as you say never forget it.

 

[Beer can]

I am with you... totally....  but... I shouldn't talk politics  

Lol! None of us should! Besides it's a banned subject, as it should be here. My comments I hope are taken generally and not politicaly.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

oh, and about the rocks... not sure how you manage with the "impossible to break without high tech equipment or dynamite" rocks... the giant slabs of limestone are bad enough.

There's really no way to deal with them other than work around them. Most yards around here have giant piles of giant rocks that were dug out during construction of the house. Some people try to arrange them, but most just have a rock pile. The smaller more manageable rocks people usually make rock walls with. There's rockwalls all over Maine.