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[Bunnylady]

Heart disease in women started increasing as more women entered the workplace and acquired the same stress as men had always had.

I've heard other people say this, but I'm curious about whether there is any data to back it up. I have also heard for decades that doctors just didn't recognize the symptoms of heart disease in women, because they weren't looking for it. A man and a woman could go to the ER with the same symptoms; he'd be diagnosed with a mild heart attack and hospitalized, she'd be sent home with a diagnosis of indigestion and an antacid.

(Incidentally, my grandmother never worked outside the home a day in her life. She had a radical mastectomy at age 80, but died at age 95 when her heart finally gave out.)

 

[ozexpat]

I've heard other people say this, but I'm curious about whether there is any data to back it up. I have also heard for decades that doctors just didn't recognize the symptoms of heart disease in women, because they weren't looking for it. A man and a woman could go to the ER with the same symptoms; he'd be diagnosed with a mild heart attack and hospitalized, she'd be sent home with a diagnosis of indigestion and an antacid.

(Incidentally, my grandmother never worked outside the home a day in her life. She had a radical mastectomy at age 80, but died at age 95 when her heart finally gave out.)

The data is overwhelming. Here is a long but useful article.

Gender matters: Heart disease risk in women

Heart disease is the leading cause of death among women — and one of the most preventable. Research is giving us insights into how we can control our risk.
We’ve come a long way since the days when a woman’s worry over heart disease centered exclusively on its threat to the men in her life. We now know it’s not just a man’s problem. Every year, coronary heart disease, the single biggest cause of death in the United States, claims women and men in nearly equal numbers, totaling about 500,000 lives. More than 6.5 million women have some form of it. Of those who survive a heart attack, 46% will be disabled by heart failure within six years.
Risk still underappreciated

In a survey conducted by the American Heart Association, about half of the women interviewed knew that heart disease is the leading cause of death in women, yet only 13% said it was their greatest personal health risk. If not heart disease, then what? Other survey data suggest that on a day-to-day basis, women still worry more about getting breast cancer — even though heart disease kills six times as many women every year. Why the disconnect?
Breast cancer affects body image, sexuality, and self-esteem in ways that a diagnosis of heart disease does not. Also, heart disease tends to show up at an older age (on average, a woman’s first heart attack occurs at age 70), so the threat may not seem all that real to younger women. Most 50-year-old women know women their age who’ve had breast cancer but none who’ve had heart disease.
In addition, many women say their physicians never talk to them about coronary risk and sometimes don’t even recognize the symptoms, mistaking them instead for signs of panic disorder, stress, and even hypochondria.

Top heart attack symptoms in women
One month before a heart attack

During a heart attack
Unusual fatigue (71%)

Shortness of breath (58%)
Sleep disturbance (48%)

Weakness (55%)
Shortness of breath (42%)

Unusual fatigue (43%)
Indigestion (39%)

Cold sweat (39%)
Anxiety (36%)

Dizziness (39%)
Heart racing (27%)

Nausea (36%)
Arms weak/heavy (25%)

Arms weak/heavy (35%)
Source: Circulation 2003, Vol. 108, p. 2621.​

Sex differences evident

Most of our ideas about heart disease in women used to come from studying it in men. But there are many reasons to think that it’s different in women. A woman’s symptoms are often different from a man’s, and she’s much more likely than a man to die within a year of having a heart attack. Women also don’t seem to fare as well as men do after taking clot-busting drugs or undergoing certain heart-related medical procedures. Research is only now beginning to uncover the biological, medical, and social bases of these and other differences. The hope is that new knowledge will lead to advances in tailoring prevention and treatment to women.
Heart disease may start in childhood, develop silently over time, and arrive without warning as a heart attack, often a deadly one. So we shouldn’t wait for symptoms to appear, or research to tell us more, before taking proven steps to reduce our risk.

Sex differences in coronary risk and treatment

Research is identifying gender differences in heart disease that may help fine-tune prevention, diagnosis, and treatment in women. Here are some examples.
Blood lipids. Before menopause, a woman’s own estrogen helps protect her from heart disease by increasing HDL (good) cholesterol and decreasing LDL (bad) cholesterol. After menopause, women have higher concentrations of total cholesterol than men do. But this alone doesn’t explain the sudden rise in heart disease risk after menopause. Elevated triglycerides are an especially powerful contributor to cardiovascular risk in women. Low HDL and high triglycerides appear to be the only factors that increase the risk of death from heart disease in women over age 65.
Diabetes. Diabetes increases the risk of heart disease in women more than it does in men, perhaps because women with diabetes more often have added risk factors, such as obesity, hypertension, and high cholesterol. Although women usually develop heart disease about 10 years later than men, diabetes erases that advantage. In women who’ve already had a heart attack, diabetes doubles the risk for a second heart attack and increases the risk for heart failure.
Metabolic syndrome. This is a group of health risks — large waist size, elevated blood pressure, glucose intolerance, low HDL cholesterol, and high triglycerides — that increases your chance of developing heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Harvard Medical School research suggests that, for women, metabolic syndrome is the most important risk factor for having heart attacks at an unusually early age. In a study of patients undergoing bypass surgery, metabolic syndrome produced a greater risk for women than it did for men of dying within eight years.
Smoking. Women who smoke are twice as likely to have a heart attack as male smokers. Women are also less likely to succeed in quitting, and women who do quit are more likely to start again. Moreover, women may not find nicotine replacement as effective, and — because the menstrual cycle affects tobacco withdrawal symptoms — they may get inconsistent results with antismoking medications.
Symptoms. Many women don’t experience the crushing chest pain that is a classic symptom of a heart attack in men. Some feel extremely tired or short of breath. Other atypical symptoms include nausea and abdominal, neck, and shoulder pain. In one study, women reported deep fatigue and disturbed sleep as much as a month or two before a heart attack. During a heart attack, only about one in eight women reported chest pain; even then, they described it as pressure, aching, or tightness rather than pain.
Diagnosis and treatment. Women have smaller and lighter coronary arteries than men do. This makes angiography, angioplasty, and coronary bypass surgery more difficult to do, thereby reducing a woman’s chance of receiving a proper diagnosis and having a good outcome. Women tend to have more complications following surgery. And they’re twice as likely to continue having symptoms several years after coronary angioplasty. (They’re usually older than men and have more chronic conditions at the time of their first coronary event.) Women’s responses to standard exercise stress tests are also different from men’s, so it’s difficult to interpret the results. Fortunately, these problems are diminishing thanks to advances in technology and better understanding of heart disease in women.​

First things first

Several things in your control can help reduce your risk for heart disease.
Don’t smoke, actively or passively. Your chance of having a heart attack doubles if you smoke as few as one to four cigarettes per day. Even if you don’t smoke, regular exposure to someone else’s smoke can increase your risk.
Be more active. Get at least 30 minutes per day of moderate-intensity exercise, such as brisk walking, most days. Fit even more activity into your life: Take the stairs rather than the elevator, do yard work, park farther from your destination and walk.
Eat healthfully. Studies at Harvard Medical School and elsewhere have identified several crucial ingredients of a heart-healthy diet — whole grains, a variety of fruits and vegetables, nuts (about 5 ounces per week), poly- and monounsaturated fats, fatty fish (such as wild salmon), and limited intake of trans fats.
Reduce stress and treat depression. Your risk for heart disease increases if you’re depressed or feel chronically stressed. Stress-reducing strategies include exercise, adequate sleep, relaxation techniques, and meditation. Psychotherapy can be especially helpful with depression and anxiety.
Reach for the numbers. In 2004, the American Heart Association (AHA) released guidelines on preventing heart disease and stroke in women (Circulation, Feb. 10, 2004). According to the AHA, you can greatly reduce your risk for these diseases by maintaining certain body measurements and levels of cholesterol and blood pressure (see chart below).

Prevention goals to reduce heart disease risk in women
Risk factor

Goal
Body measurements
Body mass index (BMI)
Multiply your weight in pounds by 700, then divide that number by the square of your height in inches

18.5–24.9
Waist (abdominal) circumference
Hold a tape measure at the level of your navel and circle your abdomen with it. (Measure below, not at, the narrowest part of your torso.)

<35 inches
Lipids, lipoproteins
Total cholesterol

<200 mg/dL
HDL cholesterol

>50 mg/dL
LDL cholesterol

<100 mg/dL
Triglycerides

<150 mg/dL
Blood pressure


<120/80 mm Hg
Adapted from information in Circulation 2004, Vol. 109, pp. 672–93.​

The AHA’s guidelines also include recommendations based on a woman’s 10-year risk of having a heart attack.

Should women take a daily aspirin?

In people who’ve already had a heart attack or stroke, a daily aspirin can lower their risk for another one. But in healthy women, it’s unclear whether aspirin’s benefits outweigh the risks of gastrointestinal bleeding and hemorrhagic stroke.
We should know more when results of the Women’s Health Study at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston are available (2004). The study is testing the effects of aspirin and/or vitamin E or a placebo on the risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer in 40,000 healthy women. For now, expert guidelines for women suggest that daily low-dose aspirin (81–162 mg) be considered only in women who already have heart disease or are at risk for it.​

Can I be tested for heart disease risk?

Doctors can measure the levels of certain substances associated with increased heart disease risk. But it’s still unclear what levels put you at risk or whether controlling them will help.
Elevated homocysteine. Homocysteine forms when the body breaks down protein. Some research has shown that people with high homocysteine levels are more likely to develop heart disease. (They also tend to be deficient in the B vitamins.) We still don’t know whether reducing homocysteine, especially by increasing B-vitamin intake, will lower heart disease risk. Trials are under way to find out. Routine screening is not recommended, but if you have a strong family history of heart disease and no traditional risk factors, your physician may suggest that you be tested.
C-reactive protein. C-reactive protein is a byproduct of blood vessel inflammation, which sets the stage for atherosclerosis (see “What is coronary heart disease?”). High C-reactive protein levels predict heart disease in both women and men and could help identify people at risk who have normal cholesterol. However, researchers haven’t yet determined the appropriate target levels of C-reactive protein for different genders, ages, and ethnic groups or how to interpret the results.

What is coronary heart disease?

Coronary heart disease results from atherosclerosis, the buildup of cholesterol-laden plaques inside the coronary arteries. These plaques restrict blood flow to the heart muscle, reducing its supply of oxygen. Angina (chest pain) may result. If blood flow is entirely disrupted, some of the tissue may die. This is what is meant by a “heart attack.”​

Heart scans. Ultra-fast computed tomography (CT) scans of the heart can detect calcium in coronary blood vessels. Calcium is one of the components of atherosclerotic plaques. But a calcium score can’t tell you whether your coronary arteries are clogged. Rather, it’s an estimate of the likelihood of plaque buildup. In general, lower calcium levels suggest lower risk for heart attack and stroke over the next few years, and higher levels suggest higher risk. But many people have calcium scores in the middle, and no one knows what that means. Until further research demonstrates that heart scans can predict heart attacks, they have limited benefits, and insurers won’t pay for them.

Selected Resources

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
“Facts and Tools Every Woman Can Use”
www.cdc.gov/wisewoman/factsandtools.htm
National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute
“The Healthy Heart Handbook for Women”
301-592-8573
www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/other/hhw​

Another thing. We all have to dies of something. A doc once told me that if we live long enough, we shall dies of cancer. eventually our ability to kill of cell mutations will overwhelm us.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

No, not Moscovies. Anconas and different Peking based Ducks lay up to 300 per year.

Silver Appleyards and Kahki Cambells.

I found this looking at Ducks. It is from 1984 Mother Earth News so is dated.

I bet they need lights in the winter but will check.

I keep tabs on my pekin girl and all the chickens. The pekin is an amazing layer and in her second year missed two days of eggs this entire spring/summer/fall with exception of a period where she was broody, and she laid again as soon as her ducklings died (they got eaten by a rat). Now that it's winter (here, not calendar) she's gone to laying an egg every 3 days. Same as she did last winter. It's good though, because the eggs freeze and crack in the winter, anyway. She outlays any chicken I've ever had, hands down. Compare that to my flock of 60ish hens that I've been getting 2 eggs a day from.

 

[ronott1]

I keep tabs on my pekin girl and all the chickens. The pekin is an amazing layer and in her second year missed two days of eggs this entire spring/summer/fall with exception of a period where she was broody, and she laid again as soon as her ducklings died (they got eaten by a rat). Now that it's winter (here, not calendar) she's gone to laying an egg every 3 days. Same as she did last winter. It's good though, because the eggs freeze and crack in the winter, anyway. She outlays any chicken I've ever had, hands down. Compare that to my flock of 60ish hens that I've been getting 2 eggs a day from.

Great information!

I checked with the guy I hatched the Guinea Keets for. He will check to see if the Guineas are laying now. He thinks they may not be but they will in the Spring.

I will let you know.

 

[dsqard]

Great information Oz and thank you for posting it.
I am worried though because the heart attack symptoms in women are what I am dealing with in my early stages of menopause. (Especially the lack of sleep and now being very tired)

 

[ronott1]

Great information Oz and thank you for posting it.

I am worried though because the heart attack symptoms in women are what I am dealing with in my early stages of menopause. (Especially the lack of sleep and now being very tired)

Get a test!

 

[chickadoodles]

I just read a lengthy article on heart disease and primary prevention in women.

One startling set of facts:
Breast cancer killed 40,000 women in USA last year and $678 million dollars was spent on research.
Heart disease killed 411,000 women in USA last year and only $173 million dollars was spent on research.

I am not saying we should divert money from breast cancer but imagine the breakthroughs if a proportional amount was allocated to stop women dying of heart disease.

Thanks Oz! I appreciate your looking it up and letting us know.

 

[ozexpat]

Thanks Oz! I appreciate your looking it up and letting us know.

No worries Chicka - it was in an article as part of my theheart.org reading before I get out bed each morning. Given your condition, I thought it was poignant.

People in banking read the Wall Street Journal, I read Medscape.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

No worries Chicka - it was in an article as part of my theheart.org reading before I get out bed each morning. Given your condition, I thought it was poignant.

People in banking read the Wall Street Journal, I read Medscape.

Oz did you read this commentary on the new lipid guidelines? This one made me giggle at lunch today:
http://www.lecturepad.org/pdf/tomdayspring/Commentary_on_2013_ACC_AHA_Guidelines.pdf

Specifically (besides the fact that he mixed up holly and holy):
I could go on and on but my strongest advice is that they should simply rename this
compendium of silliness to 2013 ACC/AHA Guideline for Academics Not Involved with
Day to Day Evaluation and Treatment of Blood Cholesterol to Reduce
Atherosclerotic Cardiovascular Risk in Adults. For those of you that have to go to the clinic everyday
–may the particles and may all the other very useful biomarkers and your experience and
wisdom continue to guide you!

 

[dsqard]

Great information Oz and thank you for posting it.

I am worried though because the heart attack symptoms in women are what I am dealing with in my early stages of menopause. (Especially the lack of sleep and now being very tired)

Get a test!

Don't need a test, pretty sure it is menopause