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[perchie.girl]

This is my first year planting in fall. I was really fishing for suggestions

Starbucks..... ahem... Cant help you because I dont garden... Besides what grows here is different from what grows in your neck of the woods.

deb

 

[Peep_Show]

My prepping for winter..... Reloading my Starbucks card....

 

[hennible]

This is my first year planting in fall. I was really fishing for suggestions

Hit the gardening thread, bogtownchick is doing some fall planting and so are others on that thread. Depends on how much time you have, but greens are a good bet, beets broccoli, radishes.... Lots of early spring stuff. And things for next year, asparagus roots or onions depending on you climate....

 

[vehve]

Wisher, that elephant dog thing really made me crack up.

Deb, since you're so knowledgeable in all things plastics, I wonder if you have any recommendations. I'm looking for something to cover our run with. At first I was going to go with corrugated plastic, but it would be a bit pricey. And shower curtains are a bit too floppy for my tastes. I'd like something easy to work, as clear as possible, and about 1-2mm thick, so that it's pretty bendy, but won't tear easily and flop around when it's a bit windy. I was also thinking of using those thick PVC sheets they hang in warehouse doors to keep heat in, but I think it comes with a pretty hefty price tag too. Anything come to mind?

 

[perchie.girl]

on a serious note.... How many here know their gardening Zone.

Its helpful for many reasons.... Even though I dont garden I do have plans for Xeriscaping with perennials some of which bear fruit. Below generates Zone by zip code

http://www.plantmaps.com/91934

I am in Zone 9a. Severe drought conditions.

Here is the site I am parusing for plant materials

http://www.highcountrygardens.com/plant-finder

I can do fruit trees.... once planted I can maintain them. Pomegranite.... OH yummmy anything that lives in the middle east will grow here maybe with a little grey water.

deb

 

[hennible]

Zone 3..... In other words, it's cold.

 

[hennible]

You might get away with figs too deb.

 

[ronott1]

on a serious note.... How many here know their gardening Zone.

Its helpful for many reasons.... Even though I dont garden I do have plans for Xeriscaping with perennials some of which bear fruit. Below generates Zone by zip code

http://www.plantmaps.com/91934

I am in Zone 9a. Severe drought conditions.

Here is the site I am parusing for plant materials

http://www.highcountrygardens.com/plant-finder

I can do fruit trees.... once planted I can maintain them. Pomegranite.... OH yummmy anything that lives in the middle east will grow here maybe with a little grey water.

deb

I am in a weird place that is part zone 14 but also zones 8 and 9.

I get to take my pick. Add to that the well water here is full of boron and other things that will kill a lot of plants, including house plants....

We are sometimes moderated by the Ocean, can get freezing weather that messes up citrus but are generally warm enough in the winter to grow things like that.

 

[perchie.girl]

Wisher, that elephant dog thing really made me crack up.

Deb, since you're so knowledgeable in all things plastics, I wonder if you have any recommendations. I'm looking for something to cover our run with. At first I was going to go with corrugated plastic, but it would be a bit pricey. And shower curtains are a bit too floppy for my tastes. I'd like something easy to work, as clear as possible, and about 1-2mm thick, so that it's pretty bendy, but won't tear easily and flop around when it's a bit windy. I was also thinking of using those thick PVC sheets they hang in warehouse doors to keep heat in, but I think it comes with a pretty hefty price tag too. Anything come to mind?

If you can afford it I would go with Polycarbonate a Known brand name is Lexan..... Its pretty dang resiliant. Mounting should be done with oversized through holes and big oversized washers. Because the wood will change shape over the seasons before the plastic does. The HDPE would be an excellent choice as well the white sheets while not clear would be translucent enough to let light in. Both Polycarbonate and HDPE are known to be self lubricating.... Um er Slippery. Polycarbonate is what is used in bullet proof applications.
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Do NOT get Acrylic. Its too brittle. Its a good window or aquarium.... but for roofing material... My green house was all acrylic... half of the panels were cracked and some had just fallen in...

Corrugated is structural so it would be able to span a larger distance without having support from under neath.... But I believe your snow load will require support from under neath No matter the material you use....

for what its worth it takes an inch of rain to make a foot of snow.
1 US gallon of water weighs 8.33 pounds at 60 degrees F. There are 231 cubic inches of water per gallon, so 8.33 pounds divided by 231 = .03606--> pounds per cubic inch

so 12 square inches will have 0.43 lbs of weight on it.... If the snow is one foot deep. Therefore a 4 x 8 sheet of Polycarbonate will have almost fourteen pounds of snow. At one foot deep.

Yeah I know snow compresses over time and with the addition of more snow.... If your structure can handle it so can the Polycarbonate.

deb

 

[ronott1]

on a serious note.... How many here know their gardening Zone.

Its helpful for many reasons.... Even though I dont garden I do have plans for Xeriscaping with perennials some of which bear fruit. Below generates Zone by zip code

http://www.plantmaps.com/91934

I am in Zone 9a. Severe drought conditions.

Here is the site I am parusing for plant materials

http://www.highcountrygardens.com/plant-finder

I can do fruit trees.... once planted I can maintain them. Pomegranite.... OH yummmy anything that lives in the middle east will grow here maybe with a little grey water.

deb

I found a better detail:

Quote: I am in zone 9a too!

Gotta love this zone......It was a bit chilly this morning when I walked the dog...in shorts, T shirt and crocks....We are still two months away from the average first frost.