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[ozexpat]

Well, like living in Finland before they had cilantro....

 

[ronott1]

You are absolutely right. I thought it was much, much worse.

The rate was worse the further back you went.

Also, the bloodiest century in history was way back.

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By
STEVEN PINKER​

September 24, 2011

 

[chickadoodles]

Want a fun toy for a grandchild? Thought this was cute.

This is so cute!

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: Yep.... though I think the border towns get the brunt of it.... I chat up the Border Patrol every time I get the chance. I cant tell you how many of them we have lost since I moved up near the border. They always wear full armor now.... Especially when they are working in the brush.

deb

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: September 24, 2011

That is soooo why we need to keep up on history... the UNABRIDGED version.... No whitewashing no Spin Doctoring no Filters..... at least for us adults we dont want to scare the crap out of the kids

.... we dont want to repeat lessons that should have been learned....

deb

 

[ronott1]

That is soooo why we need to keep up on history... the UNABRIDGED version.... No whitewashing no Spin Doctoring no Filters..... at least for us adults we dont want to scare the crap out of the kids

.... we dont want to repeat lessons that should have been learned....

deb

That is so true!

 

[Peep_Show]

Case in point re: unabridged comes to mind was the coverage of Hurricane Katrina. It was SO white-washed and sanitized by the news media. Oh, look, people wading in the water and stranded at the SuperDome. It wasn't (for me, anyway) until Oprah did an expose and showed the dead bodies floating in the water and the horrendous filth that the impact of the weather event became apparent. I thought it was her best piece of journalism....hard and brutal facts. Then it degenerated into a celebrity helpfest, but at least help got there. (At the time, though, I was involved with Best Friends Animal Society and they were doing massive efforts on the abandoned pet front, so I had an inkling how dire it was in N.O. via the network. But -- reiterate -- national news sources dropped the ball on the serious coverage.)

Sometimes the kids need to get the bejeez scared out of them. It's called a reality check. Most of them are so absorbed in their own little universe that it's amazing how little they realize...or can comprehend. I'm talking teens now....not toddlers and preschoolers. I think they've listed the maturity age at -- what -- 25 or 26 now? That's when the boundaries set in and cognizance of one's place in time and space start to set in. Being forewarned is being forearmed, as they say.

(My sister's kids are so clueless that it's kind of the family joke.... Of course, my sister is oblivious to a lot of stuff. Perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree)

 

[perchie.girl]

Case in point re: unabridged comes to mind was the coverage of Hurricane Katrina. It was SO white-washed and sanitized by the news media. Oh, look, people wading in the water and stranded at the SuperDome. It wasn't (for me, anyway) until Oprah did an expose and showed the dead bodies floating in the water and the horrendous filth that the impact of the weather event became apparent. I thought it was her best piece of journalism....hard and brutal facts. Then it degenerated into a celebrity helpfest, but at least help got there. (At the time, though, I was involved with Best Friends Animal Society and they were doing massive efforts on the abandoned pet front, so I had an inkling how dire it was in N.O. via the network. But -- reiterate -- national news sources dropped the ball on the serious coverage.)

Sometimes the kids need to get the bejeez scared out of them. It's called a reality check. Most of them are so absorbed in their own little universe that it's amazing how little they realize...or can comprehend. I'm talking teens now....not toddlers and preschoolers. I think they've listed the maturity age at -- what -- 25 or 26 now? That's when the boundaries set in and cognizance of one's place in time and space start to set in. Being forewarned is being forearmed, as they say.

(My sister's kids are so clueless that it's kind of the family joke.... Of course, my sister is oblivious to a lot of stuff. Perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree)

the news in the US is a joke..... I get better news from the BBC.... and Yep some of that is pretty dang scary....

I remember in high school they scared the crap out of us by showing a documentary on Hiroshima and Nagasaki..... From that moment on I put the survivor cap on and its been an influence to my whole life. Fox fire books learning how to preserve food.... With horses it was how to make my own gear and how to dispatch one if necessary.... back in the sixties early seventies there was alot of "stuff" floating around... Without internet it was word of mouth and rumor.... I was convinced the world would end in a huge Conflagration.... and the survivors would be the ones who came out of the cracks and made their way to safety.

You know what..... THIS is my future.... and there are worse things out there to scare the crap out of ya... This was NOTHING i ever prepared for.

My dad worked for EG&G at a place called Jackass Flats when we lived in Las Vegas.... I now know he had a Secret clearance that he couldnt even talk about having one much less divulge stuff about it. Jackass flats was where the atomic testing was done.... And right next door about five miles away.... Area 51.

deb

 

[perchie.girl]

So... now the subject has been brought up.... What kinds of Survival plans does any one have?

Me I have family close we can converge at Grandmas house.... Make plans for evac from there. I dont have food storage here.... except some MRES.... But those are travel food Not something you should live on long term.

I have to plan for:
Earthquake
Fire Storm
Infrastructure failure.

IN the City you need to know how to shut off your Gas service. How to save off the water heater water and be prepared to cook what ever is in the freezer.

For earthquake baby latches on the cupbords are a good idea.... keeps cans from falling on your heads.... As well as screwing tall furniture to the wall.... Like book cases and China Cabinets and mirrors.

Fire storm.... Keep your valuables in a fire proof save.... store important info from the computer to a remote location or on a Thumb drive.... In Lieu of a safe you can wrap important documents in a freezer container and freeze it in the freezer.... To protect from fire. Safe deposit box is better....

IDENTIFICATION is essential.... Animals that may be evacuated.... Microchips for everyone... You can spray paint info on the behind of your horse if need be.

I have a horse trailer the right size to evac all of my animals including chickens....

Do a fire drill with your animals a couple of times per year.... Usefull on so many different levels.

Medications..... essential to anyone who may be on the road for more than seven days.... KNowing alternatives that are possible incase you run out. Some prescription meds have over the counter equivalents.... different dosages but something that could work in a pinch.

Knowing a little first aid as well would be helpful. How and when to apply a tornequet.... or a pressure bandage... (I have had to do both)

This is not "Survivalist" stuff... Just being prepared. I have gone through two firestormes and two full on floods. In the 47 years I have lived in Southern California.

deb

 

[hennible]

Went through evac alert this year... Forest fire near by.