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[casportpony]

Baytril can also be used in swine, I think.

-Kathy

Edited to add link:
http://www.drugs.com/vet/baytril-100-enrofloxacin-100-mg-ml-antimicrobial-injectable-solution.html

 

[chickadoodles]

Let me see if I can explain this.

Animal medication use is both simple and complex.

The avainability of many drugs and drug types that are prescription only in humans are over the counter OTC in animals.

This puts the responsibility of managing thr use of those drugs with the individual. The reason why most drugs are prescription drugs is that the drug is or has the potential to be abused or mis-used or has potential side effects that require monitoring.

Many drugs are used off label - including ivermectin and valbazen in chickens

Doctors and vets alike will prescribe a drug for off label use but in the realm of live stock the following drugs are deemed so potentially harmful to humanity, use will lead to discipline of the vet and potential loss of license to prescribe

Prohibited Drugs:

1. Diethylstilbestrol (DES)
2. Chloramphenicol
3. Nitroimidazoles - which include dimetridazole, metronidazole, and ipronidazole.
4. Sulfonamide use in dairy cattle (Dimethox has some limited use)
5. Nitrofurans
6. Clenbuterol
7. Dipyrone
8. Fluoroquinolones - (Cipro, Off label use of Baytril on any other livrstock than beef cattle)
9. Glycopeptides -(Vancomycin)
10. Extralabel use of medicated feed .

Companion animals fall into a different class and have different rules - thus availability of metranidazole in pet stores.

Thank you Oz.

 

[ozexpat]

Baytril can also be used in swine, I think.

-Kathy

Edited to add link:
http://www.drugs.com/vet/baytril-100-enrofloxacin-100-mg-ml-antimicrobial-injectable-solution.html

yes it can

but its illegal to prescribe or give to chickens.

 

[Cynthia12]

SCG, did you ever get rid of those rats? Here is what you need to get them! Including some good young men ratters. ratters?

 

[ChickenCanoe]

Thanks for the list OZ.
There's too much misinformation on the web and too many take medicating as a first course of action with no diagnosis.

 

[vehve]

CC, yup, and then we end up having MRSA everywhere.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

SCG, did you ever get rid of those rats? Here is what you need to get them! Including some good young men ratters. ratters?

I did get rid of them! It took a lot of hard work. I trapped them, drowned them in buckets, poisoned them with bad water and shot them with .22s. After killing 10 or so the rest packed their bags and left. Smart animals.

I had a mouse in the garage last week. I put the animals food up at night so I can just grab and go in the morning. One morning I came down and the chickens dish had been dug through - something searching for the seeds. Went out that day and got some traps and caught it that night. No activity, since. Mice are soooo much easier than rats.

 

[Beer can]

I did get rid of them! It took a lot of hard work. I trapped them, drowned them in buckets, poisoned them with bad water and shot them with .22s. After killing 10 or so the rest packed their bags and left. Smart animals.

I had a mouse in the garage last week. I put the animals food up at night so I can just grab and go in the morning. One morning I came down and the chickens dish had been dug through - something searching for the seeds. Went out that day and got some traps and caught it that night. No activity, since. Mice are soooo much easier than rats.

Rats are extremely smart. We bought a hundred yr old farmhouse bordering a huge corn feild, that was unoccupied. First fall was not fun. I hate poison but had no choice they got smart to the traps. Now I use the bucket traps with the bridge and spinney beer can with peanut butter. Haven't caught any in the cellar this yr but got about eight mice in my garage.

 

[vehve]

Luckily we haven't had any rats so far, but we do see some mouse poop next to the feed bins in our outside closet. Whatever crumbles we drop are being eaten by them. Haven't seen anything in the coop though, and the insulation should be pretty well netted of from them.

 

[getaclue]

The bucket traps worked for me on some mice, but not on the rats. I had to bait for the rats. I still find one, or two once in awhile, but not regularly like before. I will keep using the baits until I'm sure it's totally under control. Like I had said before, never had any trouble until they sold the land across the street, and started developing it. Baits are not an overnight solution, but they seem to work the best over the long run.