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[Alaskan]

Alaskan you've been AWOL, I'm glad to see you back. Is everything okay?

yep.... I have been busy but I have been on BYC, just not on this thread. I love the new avatar.. great look for you!

Great Al, now I've got Winter Wonderland playing in my head.

Bama, not enough meat on that bird to be worth eating.

No noticeable improvement from yesterday in Virpi really. We gave her a bit of ketoprofen, and it seems to improve her alertness and make her eat a bit better, so she is suffering from some pain. If she isn't eating and drinking properly by tomorrow, I think it's time to consider culling her.

haha! (about the song)

Why would she be in pain? bumble foot? a sprain? arg! poor girl. would some scramble egg help pep her up?

 

[vehve]

Al, I don't know, there are no external signs of injury. There was some dry build up around her nose, might be something respiratory, but she hasn't been wheezing or anything. But she seemed so passive that we decided to try the pain meds, and she seemed to perk up from them. She hasn't really improved today, she was very passive in the evening. We've been force feeding her tonight a bit, I hope she absorbs enough energy from it to be more active tomorrow, if not I think it's time to face reality and not prolong her suffering.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

She is likely at risk for refeeding syndrome. Look it up. Go slow the first few days.

 

[vehve]

SCG, yeah, we're going slowly.

 

[casportpony]

Interesting...

Quote:

4.6.1. Refeeding syndrome

Severe electrolyte and fluid shifts associated with metabolic abnormalities in malnourished patients undergoing “refeeding”, whether orally, parenterally, or enterally. Phosphorus, potassium, and magnesium shift to intracellular space leading to sudden drops in serum levels.

• Clinical signs are varied, including neurologic dysfunction and cardiac arrhythmias
• Do not offer emaciated animals (TS < 1.0) whole food initially
• Always rehydrate animal first
• Give B vitamins
• Give oral electrolytes first
• Tubefeed formula low in carbohydrates, high in fat with adequate protein
• If the patient is digesting the formula, move gradually on to easily digestible solid food

-Kathy

 

[superchemicalgirl]

That's why I tend to start with high protein chick food mixed with eggs, sunflower seeds and meal worms. Low carbs, high protein and fat.

 

[casportpony]

That's why I tend to start with high protein chick food mixed with eggs, sunflower seeds and meal worms. Low carbs, high protein and fat.

Lately I do fluids first, then small amounts of Kaytee Baby bird food.

-Kathy

 

[Alaskan]

all rose comb are dominant, right?

 

[casportpony]

@superchemicalgirl , thanks for mentioning that, it's lead me to some wonderful links like this:
http://ocw.tufts.edu/Content/60/lecturenotes/799016

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

And this:
http://ocw.tufts.edu/Content/60/lecturenotes/797662

-Kathy