The Old Folks Home

[Kusanar]

No, most arson is committed by the property owner.....

and most6 often if it be the owner would they not remove the pets?

Good point, hadn't thought about it being the owner

 

[pennyJo1960]

Well the point was that arson is most often the owner
should that be and the family make money selling puppies?
a source of income? in my world that is a puppy mill

 

[Wisher1000]

Raising puppies to sell for profit doen't necessarily make it a puppy mill. There are plenty of legitimate breeders of dogs that take good care of their breeders. A "puppy mill" is a situation where the "breeder" just puts a male and female together and lets them crank out the puppies. There may be multiple breeds of dogs involved and the dogs' only purpose is to produce puppies.

 

[Bunnylady]

I think Wisher's point is that the person who is most likely to benefit from a fire is the most likely person to start a fire, but when someone does something like that, they usually clear the area of things that really matter to them (like the family pet) first.

Live long enough, and you remember all kinds of stuff about all kinds of things . . .

Lessee, arson . . .

Quite a number of years ago, there were over 30 suspicious fires during a period of a couple of years in one area near here. Some were houses, some were businesses, one was a school; there were fires in the woods and in things like boats sitting behind buildings. Clearly, we had a firebug at work, but the targets seemed so random it was hard to even say how many people might be involved. Finally, an arrest was made, and the burning stopped - the guy was a volunteer fireman.

Another place I lived, there was a mobile home that caught fire. Fire dept. responded, put it out. Two more times that night, it was reported as being ablaze, they came, put it out. After the last fire, there was little more than the frame that it stood on remaining. There hadn't been anybody living in the trailer; the power wasn't even turned on to it. Come to find out, this trailer was owned by a party that was living elsewhere, and the trailer was actually located on a piece of property that belonged to that party's parents. Something had occurred that might necessitate said party moving back "home;" clearly, someone didn't want that to happen, and was doing their dead level best to make sure that they'd have no "home" to move back to.

 

[drumstick diva]

If the owner has a "sparks," incident that burns out his home - investigators might realize the dog and/or other valuables were removed first ??????

 

[Wisher1000]

What dog? Oh, it ran away last week. My wife was wearing all of her jewelry, and I let my brother borrow my tools to build a playhouse for his kids.

 

[Kusanar]

Well the point was that arson is most often the owner
should that be and the family make money selling puppies?
a source of income? in my world that is a puppy mill

Raising puppies to sell for profit doen't necessarily make it a puppy mill.  There are plenty of legitimate breeders of dogs that take good care of their breeders.  A "puppy mill" is a situation where the "breeder" just puts a male and female together and lets them crank out the puppies.  There may be multiple breeds of dogs involved and the dogs' only purpose is to produce puppies.

I don't know them, so I can't say for sure, but, I don't think they were a puppy mill. If there were 6 dogs involved, there were a max of 5 puppies if they don't own the sire, puppy mills usually have more than one *****. Also, some of the neighbors said that they were checking references and evaluating all possible homes for the puppies, also not the behavior of a puppy mill.

 

[pennyJo1960]

That is nice to hear thank you you where a friend to them, I might of if I had known them ?
Diva you would think that would be the case does not seem to be the issue here
losing Mom and litter also

 

[drumstick diva]

no it wasn't the same circumstances, I was just remembering her losing the mother and litter, and being very nonchalant about it. I was so riled up by her indifference.

 

[superchemicalgirl]

I spent all day working in the front yard yesterday. The front yard is a conglomeration of built in raised beds, bucket and "smart pots" that is about half of my yearly garden (I have a raised bed in the back yard by the chickens, too). At the end of the season it looks awful out there - most of the plants are dead or dying, the weeds, ohmygodtheweeds, take over because you really can't mow after the plants start to go crazy and vine (and I don't weed). Anyway, at the end of the year I haul the dirt out of the systems and bring it up the hill and around the house and into the chicken run where I dump the dirt into the biddy bunkers. It's about 3 yards worth. It really helps with the giant bunkers but 3 yards just isn't enough for all the excavation work they do there all summer. But it is likely enough that I won't break an ankle on a bunker when the snow first starts to fly.

Anyway, once I got the area clean I got the mower out and tackled the weeds where the raised beds were, then realized the rest of the yard looked bad and mowed the front and back and side yards.

I was so tired at the end of all this after I finished my animal chores and locked the goats and ducks up for the night and got the chickens back in their run waiting for them to go in to bed I took a long hot shower. I then did a little nail clipping (it's the only thing that would get the dirt out). I stood up after all this and in my bathroom is a giant double window overlooking the back yard. I immediately noticed my two goats out and about. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why the goats were out. Apparently I was so tired all I did was feed them. Left their house door open and the gate.

The really good news is:
1. After almost a decade I finally grew 2 watermelon that were ripe!
2. I have more than enough pumpkins and am ready for the pumpkin thief this year (and I haven't even touched the back garden, yet)