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[getaclue]

that's not what the BBC reports Clue: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55056016

Perris, if you are saying her medical professionals are liars, or that I'm not relaying what they've said, you're wrong. The way it's handled, is the medical community reports it, then the pharmaceutical company says they're investigating it. More recently, a higher number of people have been reporting an anaphylactic reaction. It's still not listed as a potential side effect, but they do advise that anyone seeming to have a more adverse reaction, seek medical help immediately.

To be honest, because it was fast tracked, and because the approval is "emergency use only", they may not be fully aware of all the side effects, for years, nor do they have to list them, since they can't be held accountable. There are plenty of ads on tv regarding lawsuits about drugs that went through years of testing, for normal approval, only to find out later on, there was a problem with them.

I'm not telling you not to get the vaccine. I'm just relaying what my mother-in-law has experienced, and what her doctors are saying.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Morning Old Folks had my allotted coffee time to grow up put real clothes on

 

[Perris]

Perris, if you are saying her medical professionals are liars, or that I'm not relaying what they've said, you're wrong. The way it's handled, is the medical community reports it, then the pharmaceutical company says they're investigating it. More recently, a higher number of people have been reporting an anaphylactic reaction. It's still not listed as a potential side effect, but they do advise that anyone seeming to have a more adverse reaction, seek medical help immediately.

To be honest, because it was fast tracked, and because the approval is "emergency use only", they may not be fully aware of all the side effects, for years, nor do they have to list them, since they can't be held accountable. There are plenty of ads on tv regarding lawsuits about drugs that went through years of testing, for normal approval, only to find out later on, there was a problem with them.

I'm not telling you not to get the vaccine. I'm just relaying what my mother-in-law has experienced, and what her doctors are saying.

Myths Clue; see your own country's cdc page on it
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html, quote from the first bit

Can a COVID-19 vaccine make me sick with COVID-19?​

No. None of the authorized and recommended COVID-19 vaccines or COVID-19 vaccines currently in development in the United States contain the live virus that causes COVID-19. This means that a COVID-19 vaccine cannot make you sick with COVID-19.

Anaphylactic shock however is recognized, which is why people with a history of such reactions aren't given it, here at least

 

[bruceha2000]

Thank you Perris

We're going to get some more single digit temps nightly and teens daytime...no biggie I'm just going to crank up the thermostat and imagine we have palm trees outside

Maybe you can get some South Pacific travel posters to put up in the windows.

That's one of the knows side effects of the vaccine, is getting a case of covid, and being able to transmit it to others.

I'm sorry but it is NOT possible to get Covid from either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine as they are mRNA based and NOT created using the virus in ANY form at all. That is not true of all the vaccines available in the world nor the not yet approved Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

6-8" predicted here. Started snowing around 7 AM and is supposed to continue until 3 PM.

Because clearly you NEEDED more snow!

 

[pennyJo1960]

Morning Bruce I do agree with you but did not want in the discussion figured to go another way ..
Hey got this cockerel I culled 5 or 6 days ago he is cooking down now undecided how to make it a meal

 

[getaclue]

While it's not made from the live virus, people are still coming down with covid after the vaccine. At first, they were claiming the person already had it, but now with enough cases showing the same results, they still have it under investigation. In my mother in law's case, they're pretty sure the covid was not pre-existing, because she took a test, with negative results. I guess it is possible that the test was not accurate, which opens another whole issue.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Thing there maybe that day she was negative got it a few days later same day as vaccinated. The ones out now require a booster in three weeks.. As she became sicker was diagnosed covid

 

[getaclue]

penny, you could be right. She could have caught it at the place she got vaccinated, for all anybody knows. She lives in a senior living community, so they herded them through the rec center to test them, then vaccinated after they got the test results. They did not vaccinate the same day they did the test, so it's very possible she got it between the two events.

It could be that one of the tests, either the before, or after, was not accurate too. While they tend to be pretty reliable, they aren't 100%. All I can say with some degree of accuracy, is what her doctors have said.

 

[pennyJo1960]

Yup bet on it ... And the vaccine is not enough till herd imunity is reached so keep the mask on another year
This is your friendly researcher saying mask on

 

[Perris]

people are still coming down with covid after the vaccine

It takes a little while for your body to build up its antibodies following vaccination Clue, so people here are advised to keep shielding for a fortnight after vaccination. And of course even 90% effectiveness means it doesn't work for 10%. This from the uk gov website : after vaccination
"It may take a week or two for your body to build up some protection from the first dose of vaccine. Like all medicines, no vaccine is completely effective, so you should continue to take recommended precautions to avoid infection. Some people may still get COVID-19 despite having a vaccination, but this should be less severe." https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...hat-to-expect-after-your-covid-19-vaccination