Well... we all know i am crazy...'Al', I just couldn't do it. Whatever grasp on sanity that I still have would be lost.

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Well... we all know i am crazy...'Al', I just couldn't do it. Whatever grasp on sanity that I still have would be lost.
Buy some crampons
Cap said what I was going to post. I don't think any boots are good on ice without them. And they are much cheaper and easier to find than a pair of warm and comfortable boots.
We have cleats... but I don't like putting them on and taking them off...it hurts my fingers.Cheaper yet than crampons, a box of quarter inch hex head metal screws strategically screwed into the tread of a pair of comfortable old boots! That is what DH did for us. No falls on ice in two or three years now!
Mysterious "normal" people.Soooooooooo, who determines who's crazy and who's sane??
I don't watch the news any more. Folks in the town where I live are friendly and helpful. For the most part.
CNN is part of the propaganda machine.That about where I sit anymore too watch the weather reports getting up so late none till 11.. what ever happened to old cnn that turned oust national but also local inside of it