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[Arielle]

Work is a little insane. THe lead is a jeckyl-hyde and has me in a panic to ask for help or not during this training period. She tells us to ask for assistance and when we do she acts like we are bothering her complete with noises of exasperation. UGH. ANd that is just ONE example of the dozen in a shift.

One person quit yesterday, and another went to the mgr saying either move me to another dept or I quit. Mger got on the situation immediately. Lead has been very nice to us now. Will see how long it lasts. We need her and she needs us. I really hope she has the capacity to be a better person. OTherwise the girls will slap her silly and I will find a voovoo doll!! ( We vent at break!)

All the other workers around us know she is like this and never complained to mger; too afraid to loose their jobs so they take it. I'm too old to put up with crap. DId I tell you I swore and yelled at her last week? Just as the mger walked into the dept? ( I have NEVER lost it at work, NEVER!) I could have died-- I sounded like a lunatic! lol which I was-she doesn't know how to teach, just correct and belittle and criticize. I lost it, and at break the girls were all smiles and supportive. Mger should have dug deeper at that time. I think he doesn't know I have a 12 history with the company, long ago, but still, my records must be on record I do think I will not be asked to stay on because of this. .Abuse I cannot sit by and watch-- I had to speak up and support the others.

I hate drama. Chickens have a nice calming effect--will go feed them now.

 

[ronott1]

Work is a little insane. THe lead is a jeckyl-hyde and has me in a panic to ask for help or not during this training period. She tells us to ask for assistance and when we do she acts like we are bothering her complete with noises of exasperation. UGH. ANd that is just ONE example of the dozen in a shift.

One person quit yesterday, and another went to the mgr saying either move me to another dept or I quit. Mger got on the situation immediately. Lead has been very nice to us now. Will see how long it lasts. We need her and she needs us. I really hope she has the capacity to be a better person. OTherwise the girls will slap her silly and I will find a voovoo doll!! ( We vent at break!)

All the other workers around us know she is like this and never complained to mger; too afraid to loose their jobs so they take it. I'm too old to put up with crap. DId I tell you I swore and yelled at her last week? Just as the mger walked into the dept? ( I have NEVER lost it at work, NEVER!) I could have died-- I sounded like a lunatic! lol which I was-she doesn't know how to teach, just correct and belittle and criticize. I lost it, and at break the girls were all smiles and supportive. Mger should have dug deeper at that time. I think he doesn't know I have a 12 history with the company, long ago, but still, my records must be on record I do think I will not be asked to stay on because of this. .Abuse I cannot sit by and watch-- I had to speak up and support the others.

I hate drama. Chickens have a nice calming effect--will go feed them now.

"Did you hear what she said now?"

Do you watch the show Revenge?

Chickens are great therapy! I am worried about the chickens now- it is our turn here for bad weather. The old Pineapple express is hitting us this week with flood warnings for many counties, including mine. I should be fine but some of the folks in the country already had problems with the last storm.



Check out how to deal with people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

 

[Cynthia12]

Work is a little insane. THe lead is a jeckyl-hyde and has me in a panic to ask for help or not during this training period. She tells us to ask for assistance and when we do she acts like we are bothering her complete with noises of exasperation. UGH. ANd that is just ONE example of the dozen in a shift.

One person quit yesterday, and another went to the mgr saying either move me to another dept or I quit. Mger got on the situation immediately. Lead has been very nice to us now. Will see how long it lasts. We need her and she needs us. I really hope she has the capacity to be a better person. OTherwise the girls will slap her silly and I will find a voovoo doll!! ( We vent at break!)

All the other workers around us know she is like this and never complained to mger; too afraid to loose their jobs so they take it. I'm too old to put up with crap. DId I tell you I swore and yelled at her last week? Just as the mger walked into the dept? ( I have NEVER lost it at work, NEVER!) I could have died-- I sounded like a lunatic! lol which I was-she doesn't know how to teach, just correct and belittle and criticize. I lost it, and at break the girls were all smiles and supportive. Mger should have dug deeper at that time. I think he doesn't know I have a 12 history with the company, long ago, but still, my records must be on record I do think I will not be asked to stay on because of this. .Abuse I cannot sit by and watch-- I had to speak up and support the others.

I hate drama. Chickens have a nice calming effect--will go feed them now.

Oh man, I can relate..in all of the years that I've worked! I've had some similar experiences. And you are right, you have to be careful..and that was when I was younger. I really don't think I could hold my tongue now. In fact, I would be the one to go up to her personally and tell her that she can settle down now, that being boss doesn't mean she needs to be bossy. That we need someone that can help us, and using a whip doesn't get the horse to work harder. Wow, I think you have done well to put up with it from the sounds of it, and the breaking point was bound to come. At least you didn't quit. Too bad someone had to though, to get the point across to management. I remember drama at work, but some places I worked at were not too bad at all, in fact, my last job was wonderful that way. Had a boss that was one to talk things out with you, and made sure you understood them in a nice way. I can hear her sweet voice now, she became a friend for life. We live close enough we still see each other in stores. I lucked out for my last job.

 

[Arielle]

I hate seeing workers abuse just because the boss has power.

Ron, love the little chattering chicks!! Usually we don't bother using our break time for talking about work, THese girls are funny and laugh at everything and nothing! I'm the ignorant one, I speak only ONE language, each of them speaks at least two languages and one speaks FIVE. We talk food, kids, family.

One of the long timers pulled up a chair and told us who we needed to get to , the big boss, but I am a well trained employee, go up the ladder rung by rung, do not jump over a boss because they remember that offense. I don't know the manager very well, only a few weeks of observation, but I will give him the opportunity to do his job before going to his boss. Already the lead was call ing us "honey" and sweety-- where is the gag smiley! We just ask for respect and due curtesy.

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I'm too old to not stick up for those being abused. IF it was just me-- I would manage. But this girl had a reputation long before my arrival. ANd she clearly had it out for one person in particular. She didn't complain because she needed a job and in her country you respect your elders and don't talk back , ever. Her American friend had a different approach! ( NOt me.) SO we had a powpow on dealing with the situation.

Cynthia-- I yelled at her. I was pushed to the limit and reacted. Not my finest moment. SHe seems to not understand polite manners. She was grumping at me at the end of shift and I asked why she was mad at me, that she sounds up set with me. "NO, nothing is wrong."

ok ROn I will look up NPD!!

 

[dsqard]

I am very lucky at my job too. Corporate is corporate and corporate is over 1000 miles away so we feel the effects of the shennanigans there but don't have to deal with the drama from there. My boss here is a great boss. He believes in keeping us informed and is very understanding if you make a mistake. DH and I have known him for years (DH has actually known him for a lot longer) and he is not only our boss, but a great friend. He gave me a "welcome back" hug yesterday when I told him I wasn't going to get the job back east. Made me feel better about not getting the position.

I have worked in places where the atmosphere was miserable and it is so hard to deal with. Left my last job because of the environment at work.

 

[ronott1]

I hate seeing workers abuse just because the boss has power.

Ron, love the little chattering chicks!! Usually we don't bother using our break time for talking about work, THese girls are funny and laugh at everything and nothing! I'm the ignorant one, I speak only ONE language, each of them speaks at least two languages and one speaks FIVE. We talk food, kids, family.

One of the long timers pulled up a chair and told us who we needed to get to , the big boss, but I am a well trained employee, go up the ladder rung by rung, do not jump over a boss because they remember that offense. I don't know the manager very well, only a few weeks of observation, but I will give him the opportunity to do his job before going to his boss. Already the lead was call ing us "honey" and sweety-- where is the gag smiley! We just ask for respect and due curtesy.

As for NPD--this girl fits the term white trash. I am learning social stratas-- I never paid attention before, just treating everyone with respect and dignity and a smile. I'm learning . . . . I'm slow but I'm learning it matters who you hang out with. No such thing as equal.

I'm too old to not stick up for those being abused. IF it was just me-- I would manage. But this girl had a reputation long before my arrival. ANd she clearly had it out for one person in particular. She didn't complain because she needed a job and in her country you respect your elders and don't talk back , ever. Her American friend had a different approach! ( NOt me.) SO we had a powpow on dealing with the situation.

Cynthia-- I yelled at her. I was pushed to the limit and reacted. Not my finest moment. SHe seems to not understand polite manners. She was grumping at me at the end of shift and I asked why she was mad at me, that she sounds up set with me. NO, nothing is wrong.

ok ROn I will look up NPD!!

NPD is something that you can work with if it is in a work environment. It is tricky if within your family. Yes, be very careful since the Personality Disorder has very strong and often strange defense mechanisms. The person you see is a huge mask. The real person is hiding somewhere and is often a scared little kid. They react that way sometimes too.

Yes, look it up and find information with dealing with them that does not involve cutting all ties to them.

 

[Arielle]

I'm a team player. Work together. FInd out what the boss needs and get it done. I don't need to be a friend to this lead; only friendly. During the first few weeks I offered " what can I help with" ? I can sweep a floor if need be. Goal: get the work done asap.

I looked up NPD-- she is parts of this though I think she is actaully someone put in a lead position without the training to train others or how to oversee their work. I suspect this is the history of mankind in the factory setting. A peon worker moved up a position because of experience, however they lack the "teacher" skills. Berating, yelling, the usual tactics used to force people into desired behaviors that usually backfire because it is ineffective.

I've trained a few dogs ( with the ehlp of a pro) and worked a few horses, and my kids too, and cooperative behavior is far more effective than punishment is. Reward is the second best. I once saw a stallion doing the spanish walk with his owner walking beside him. She had taught him just two days before in one evening. Because he was an engaged student, wanting to learn and trying to figure out her messages via "yes" or "no" communication he was a quick learner.

I often think of this. ANd how talking at people changes nothing. A person needs to be engaged and have a reason to be engaged ( a reward) to put in a full effort to learn. In the case of this lead, the loominng concern about punishment will keep her on the nice side. I would rather have her understand that we will give our best efffort if she does; unfortunately,, we will give our best effort despite her. That leaves threat of punishment to keep her in line. Maybe . . . I need to think. Maybe the chaos has been of her own creation. She is hard on us; we make mistakes, the bosses come down on her and the cycle goes 'round. If she is nice to use, helps us and we make fewer mistakes and higher output, the bosses are happy, and they might say something nice to her and she will say something nice to us.

OH, give me a dog to train please! Much easier.

 

[dsqard]

Arielle, have you all considered trying to have a conversation with her "offline" to let her know how you can all work together better? If she is just lacking in management skills but willing to learn, she should be willing to listen to feedback. I would suggest a group "meeting" outside of work (less threatening) with everyone concerned to discuss the issues and how to resolve them. Sometimes it is good to just air everything out and start fresh.

 

[Arielle]

Great idea, however she treated us like dirt. THe worst treatment I have ever received. My impression is that she is better or superior to us and seems to enjoy berrating and yelling and taking us all to task as if we are less than her. I think she only understand hierarchy style mangement. So, In this case I'll let the managers handle it. Dept manager took down a statement from the girl that left the dept to go to packing dept and the girl that quit came in to talk to dept manager; she is supposed to be back on Monday.

Whatever the bosses, as in managers, did worked. Last night she was 1000% nice. We could talk and joke. THe hard part is that the joy has been sucked out of the room. Maybe with the other girl back on Monday the atmosphere will improve.


I can ask questions now, knowing if she gives me grief I will go right to the manager, and she answers kindly and promptly. SHe is actually helpful to us and we are making fewer mistakes. THere are only two of us left to do the work of 4, they need us so that is my leverage. ANd the manager said we were doing a good job--more leverage.

I think she , the lead, is less stressed now too. She is not acting like the energizer bunny trying to juggle 4 things at once. SHe only supervises, no production work. SHe asked to see my work and gave me a positive compliment. I was shocked!! A 180 from the negatives she doled out regularly. So I hope this is working better for her too.

 

[Cynthia12]

Who likes turkeys? : Saw this on another site today, and I had to save it. I think someone should make one of these carts and see if it works..with your turkeys. )