The Olive-Egger thread!

[Nikon]

Call me a noob, but what is F1, F2, F3 and such referring to? I'm assuming it's a color scale of some sort, or is it first generation olive egger and so forth?

I have on Olive Egger she from a blue or splash marans hen crossed with a blue isbar rooster. She is the most consistent layer we have.

Here are her eggs. Sometimes they have specks, sometimes they're solid. Sometimes they look just green, but then there are other days they are olive drab





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[buckabucka]

I have a Marans x Isbar cross too. Very similar egg and hen. She was purchased in a hatching egg assortment.

 

[TammyTX]

The speckled olive eggs are so pretty! I have an EE who lays one very similar and I've hatched one (crossed with the welly/EE dad) and I have two more under a broody. It's a young broody but I'm hoping she is better than the young BCM I used a couple of months ago.

Nikon - that is what it stands for although when it comes to genetics I really don't know much at all!

 

[QuailQT]

Here are her eggs. Sometimes they have specks, sometimes they're solid. Sometimes they look just green, but then there are other days they are olive drab

BEAUTIFUL egg! Just what I want!


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I have a Marans x Isbar cross too. Very similar egg and hen. She was purchased in a hatching egg assortment.

Pretty hens!
I just got a bantam wheaten AM roo and he's the only bantam that I have. I don't know if he would be able to breed my big girls. Anyone have luck crossing their bantam roos to a LF hen? It would be a miracle if he was able to. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it.
I would like to get him some bantam Wellie girls for some olive eggs. I am also looking for some AM bantams, but love, love, love the olive colored eggs.

 

[Peach2u]

Rusty needs a new home! He was hatched OCT 2013. He is cream with red wing patched and red mixed with cream head. He has blue coming into his tail. Rusty is just learning to crow and sounds like someone is chocking him as he crows. His dad is an F1 OE {blue maran+American} mom an Americana. He has been running free range in the yard with the flock till last night. He started sneak attacking the hens while Alpha roo wasn't looking. He is going to be a big boy. He is skittish but not aggressive. He calls hens over to share food and stands guard in the yard. But I have 3 roos and 14 hens so he needs his own girls. I can not take pix atm I lost my charger on vacation last week. If you need fresh genes for your flock or a good yard rooster. He is free, but you have to come pick him up. I live 30 miles east of Chattanooga,TN PM me if you want him. Thanks

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Call me a noob, but what is F1, F2, F3 and such referring to? I'm assuming it's a color scale of some sort, or is it first generation olive egger and so forth?

I have on Olive Egger she from a blue or splash marans hen crossed with a blue isbar rooster. She is the most consistent layer we have.

Here are her eggs. Sometimes they have specks, sometimes they're solid. Sometimes they look just green, but then there are other days they are olive drab





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F1, F2, F3, ect refers to the generations of your breeding program: This blog has a whole genetics mini serries that starts with egg colour and then gets into other stuff like shank colour, feather colours and more... I have found it useful, plus it also explains how to figure out what genes your chickens are carring... http://scratchcradle.wordpress.com/tag/genetics-mini-series-2/page/2/

 

[nicalandia]

Posting this as Educational Post, source> https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/301500/naked-neck-turken-thread/10290#post_13251581
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Ok I will try to explain this..


Most Easter Eggers have only one Copy of the blue egg shell gene(Unless is a pure Ameraucana, which EEs are not) that single Copy of the blue egg shell gene is Linked the Pea Comb by 4 centimorgan, so its very very close, so what does this link thing means? it means that whererver the Pea comb genes goes, the blue egg shell gene will follow, and the single comb gene that is also pressent on the EE hen does not have a blue egg shell gene linked to it, so it means that wherever the single gene comb goes, it will go alone and will not have a blue egg shell gene.. so the Mother Had only one copy of the Pea comb gene and looks like she inherit her Offspring(your pink egg laying pullet) that lonly single comb gene.. so from Dame side she is NOT getting the blue egg shell gene


Now to the Sire side The Sire inherited Only 1 Copy of the blue egg shell gene from the Cream legbar(therfore his sisters layd blue colored eggs) But guess What? Remember how the blue egg shell gene is linked to the pea comb? well sometimes(about 3% chance) the blue egg shell will migrate to the single comb gene, Dr. Punnett got Chilean hens that had single comb and that also laid blue eggs, these hens were the foundation stock for the cream legbar, these hens were what is know in genetic terms, Recombinants, Their Blue egg shell gene is now Linked to that specific single comb, not any single comb just that one, so what this means is that while sire is single combed(p+/p+) one of those single comb gene has a blue egg shell gene attached to it and it wont go anywere else alone(wont segregate independently)


so this is what happened..

Dame Genetic Make up p+(o+)/P(O) where p+ is single comb and o+ is white egg shell..
Sire Genetic Make up p+(O)/p+(o+) sow what is the change of your Pullets inheriting both p+(o+)/p+(o+)

So What were the Chances of this happening to you?(chances of you not getting blue eggers even heterozygous ones) Only 25%, which is low but not improbable, if I were you I would do the same cross again, you would have 75% chance of getting blue eggers..

now to the Actuall Cross percentages

doing this cross will give you

25% chance of getting P(O)/p+(O) homozygous blue eggers (deep blue eggs)
25% chance of getting P(O)/p+(o+) heterozygous blue egger (light blue eggs)
25% chance of getting p+/(O)/p+(o+) heterozygous blue egger (light blue eggs)
25% chance of getting p+(o+)/p+(o+) white/pink colored eggs



Hope this helps

 

[seventreesfarm]

My next batch of Olivers is hatching right now! This bunch has a black ameraucana roo, with one blue copper marans hen that lays some decently dark/speckled eggs, one hen that is a cross from an Oliver roo and an Oliver hen that lays lovely pale olive egs with dark tan speckles, and one hen that is a cross from a welsummer hen and Oliver roo that lays large medium brown eggs with dark speckles.

I also had an ameraucana and an amer cross in this pen, but they didn't lay during the time I was pulling eggs. Since I'm also breeding for productivity, I guess that was nature's way of telling me they were out of the gene pool.

I'm getting confused about generation terminology though. If I'm crossing a hen that came from first cross -

BCM + Amer = blue oliver pullet (Jeb)

Jeb + Oliver roo = Light Splash (olive-egger with pea comb)

Light splash + Amer roo = ??

How do I figure out all the F1/F2 etc terminology for my experiments?

 

[nicalandia]

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F1s are the cross results from the first parent stock(Ameraucana x Marans) now if you cross the F1s together(brother, sister) you will get F2s,... interesting cross you may want to concider, Black Ameraucana rooser crossed with Cuckoo maran hens will produce Black Sexlinks that are Olive eggers, 100% Sexlinks and 100% Olive eggers

 

[seventreesfarm]

I'm working toward that at some point. I had some hatchery cuckoo marans that I sold because they weren't up to my breeding standards. I have a really nice looking golden cuckoo roo that i will start breeding in a month or so, just to get some barring in the flock. Sex links are nice, but I end up raising mine until I can tell cockerel from pullets anyway, so not a huge priority to be abel to tell them apart sooner.