Could it have been the mapuche landrace birds?Quote:
Here From Punnetts own words..
source http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jgenet/48/327.pdf the Chilean Stock were Creasted(Araucana are not Creasted, had Rump and lacked PeaCombs) so yeah there were not Araucanas nor Ameraucanas, these were Chelian stock, just like many south american and Central American stock that Lay blue eggs and are single combed
If your Mother Hen of the Pullets is Homogenous dominant O (OO) and does not carry any inhibitor genes against brown genes then you have a good chance for Green as you have 100% chance of the O gene being passed to the chicks from her, but if the Mother hen is Oo+ (1 dominant O and 1 wild type recessive white gene) then each chick male or female has only a 50% chance of caring the O gene you need to make Green or Blue eggs.If the Mother is carrying the inhibitors you should get Blue or almost Blue (only tinted green) eggs, some inhibitor genes seem to kill all browning others just some of the browning (still reading up on this myself). So you have to wait until they lay to be sure if they do lay Green or Blue then you know they are Oo+ and if there is a gene that effects the browning factors you will have Blue Eggs, to figure out the boy you need to cross him with a hen you know is o+o+. Leghorns BTW carry inhibitor genes against laying brown eggs. Each chick in a breeding program for a trait is dice roll on the DNA % game, so if you think of each egg produced is like going to the casino then it is easier to understand DNA % and how you see the results.... Human example my siblings and I all have blue eyes this is a recessive gene but only our mother has blue eyes, our father has brown eyes which is a dominant trait strait % chances one of us should have had brown eyes, as dad is Dr and mom is rr = 50% chance for Dr and rr in all children but when each of us was conceived the die roll at that exact moment so to speak landed with 2 recessive blue genes all 3 times. On the bright side of DNA gambling (breeding for traits) chickens lay allot of eggs so you have a better chance of figuring out genes then with mammals in my opinion. Soto recap in the case of your 3 young ones they are either 100% chance of carring Oo+ combo or 50% chance of o+o+ or Oo+ each depending on the mother hen's DNA. I hope this helpsI have 4 black copper mixes. Mother was black copper that has a wonky comb, father is welsummer/EE mix.
This is father:
This is mother:
These are the three older chicks at about 7 weeks:
The two pullets appear to have pea combs, the cockerel in front has a single comb. Is this a common out come from such a breeding? I would have thought that this pairing would have resulted in all single combs.
Can I assume that the pullets will lay olive eggs?
It will depend
If your Mother Hen of the Pullets is Homogenous dominant O (OO) and does not carry any inhibitor genes against brown genes then you have a good chance for Green as you have 100% chance of the O gene being passed to the chicks from her, but if the Mother hen is Oo+ (1 dominant O and 1 wild type recessive white gene) then each chick male or female has only a 50% chance of caring the O gene you need to make Green or Blue eggs.If the Mother is carrying the inhibitors you should get Blue or almost Blue (only tinted green) eggs, some inhibitor genes seem to kill all browning others just some of the browning (still reading up on this myself). So you have to wait until they lay to be sure if they do lay Green or Blue then you know they are Oo+ and if there is a gene that effects the browning factors you will have Blue Eggs, to figure out the boy you need to cross him with a hen you know is o+o+. Leghorns BTW carry inhibitor genes against laying brown eggs. Each chick in a breeding program for a trait is dice roll on the DNA % game, so if you think of each egg produced is like going to the casino then it is easier to understand DNA % and how you see the results.... Human example my siblings and I all have blue eyes this is a recessive gene but only our mother has blue eyes, our father has brown eyes which is a dominant trait strait % chances one of us should have had brown eyes, as dad is Dr and mom is rr = 50% chance for Dr and rr in all children but when each of us was conceived the die roll at that exact moment so to speak landed with 2 recessive blue genes all 3 times. On the bright side of DNA gambling (breeding for traits) chickens lay allot of eggs so you have a better chance of figuring out genes then with mammals in my opinion. Soto recap in the case of your 3 young ones they are either 100% chance of carring Oo+ combo or 50% chance of o+o+ or Oo+ each depending on the mother hen's DNA. I hope this helps
These are the three older chicks at about 7 weeks:
The two pullets appear to have pea combs, the cockerel in front has a single comb. Is this a common out come from such a breeding? I would have thought that this pairing would have resulted in all single combs.
Can I assume that the pullets will lay olive eggs?
It will depend
If your Mother Hen of the Pullets is Homogenous dominant O (OO) and does not carry any inhibitor genes against brown genes then you have a good chance for Green as you have 100% chance of the O gene being passed to the chicks from her, but if the Mother hen is Oo+ (1 dominant O and 1 wild type recessive white gene) then each chick male or female has only a 50% chance of caring the O gene you need to make Green or Blue eggs.If the Mother is carrying the inhibitors you should get Blue or almost Blue (only tinted green) eggs, some inhibitor genes seem to kill all browning others just some of the browning (still reading up on this myself). So you have to wait until they lay to be sure if they do lay Green or Blue then you know they are Oo+ and if there is a gene that effects the browning factors you will have Blue Eggs, to figure out the boy you need to cross him with a hen you know is o+o+. Leghorns BTW carry inhibitor genes against laying brown eggs. Each chick in a breeding program for a trait is dice roll on the DNA % game, so if you think of each egg produced is like going to the casino then it is easier to understand DNA % and how you see the results.... Human example my siblings and I all have blue eyes this is a recessive gene but only our mother has blue eyes, our father has brown eyes which is a dominant trait strait % chances one of us should have had brown eyes, as dad is Dr and mom is rr = 50% chance for Dr and rr in all children but when each of us was conceived the die roll at that exact moment so to speak landed with 2 recessive blue genes all 3 times. On the bright side of DNA gambling (breeding for traits) chickens lay allot of eggs so you have a better chance of figuring out genes then with mammals in my opinion. Soto recap in the case of your 3 young ones they are either 100% chance of carring Oo+ combo or 50% chance of o+o+ or Oo+ each depending on the mother hen's DNA. I hope this helps
I currently have noneIt does help, thank you!! Genetics, even dumbed down to my level, is like piecing a quilt...all parts are important to the final project!
The mother hen is a full Black Cooper that lays huge dark eggs...but not the super dark egg. The father could have something like leghorn in him since he is a Welly/EE but his mother, who was the EE, lays a light/med olive egg.
I'm hoping to eggs in August and I'll post the results for anyone interested.
As far as human parents...my parents have brown eyes and dark hair...I'm blonde and blue but I always quickly add that I also look like my dad!
What types of chickens do you have?
I wish I was closer. I would take him. I have 6 laying hens and two roosters, but I also have at least 17 other hens that will be laying by September. I say at least because the other 5 babies I have were hatched myself, and I'm not entirely sure what sex they are yet.
I found a good home for him. A friend of my cousin lost her roo over the weekend he was 8 years old. Rusty will have his own girls and will be pampered LOL.
