The Olive-Egger thread!

[mstricer]

Barring in Females is sex linked meaning it it on the genes that make MALE chicks If the female is not visually barred she is NOT CARRYING the barring genes. Barring is NOT recessive.

Roos with two copies of the barring (a normal barred roo) will pass the barring to 100% of his chicks. BUT the roos from a Barred roo and a non barred hen will only carry ONE copy and will not breed true. The second copy of barring in roos comes from the hen.


FYI: Female chickens determine the gender of the chicks she has one copy of each male and female genes and the barring is only attached to her male set of genes.

Still trying to figure this out, bare with me please. The science stuff is messing with my brain. So then will they get the second copy, by breeding them (roosters) back to a non-related female that came from the same breeding? Sounds dumb but if you read it like ten times you should be able to figure out what I'm trying to say. Thanks Michele

 

[naturespace]

I have to say that I am disappointed in the color of my olive eggs. These are from a FBCM roo X Lav Ameracuana. I was expecting a much darker olive color from this cross. The eggs seem to have quite a bit of a brown hue to them. If I cross hens back to a dark egg layer, will I get a deeper olive color or more of a golden green color?

I think they are really pretty, but i understand that you wish they were darker. I would say try to bred them to the FBCM and they will darken up. I think if you want a brighter green bred them to the Ameracuanas again.

 

[mstricer]

Quote: I like them too. That's part of the fun for me, is to see what different shades I can. I have two pens right now FBCM and Olive Egger hens under Olive Egger Cockerel and he is dumb, he just became head after top roo went to a new home, he has no manners and the girls run from him, then the chase is on. All over the yard until he catches them. The other pen contains Lavender Ameraucana, Olive Egger and one Barred Rock pullets under a Lavender Ameraucana. No eggs from this yet. Lavender girls are the only ones laying and I have some of them cooking in the incubator. Can't wait. They were under a BCM and Olive Egger cockerel. So now I'm hatching those to mix colors.

 

[mstricer]

Quote: Okay how about cream Legbar, Put the girls under the a roo?

 

[DMRippy]

OK, not sure I understand your questions. If you use a Barred Roo with one copy of the barring gene and breed him with pullets from the same cross, you will get the same mix. Some roos with 2 copies and some with 1. The roo can only pass his copy to HALF the chicks so 25% of the roo and 25% of the pullets from the hatch. The Barred pullet will pass the barring to 100% of the roos and 0% to pullets (she can't pass the barring to pullets because she only has the barring on the genes that make roos) SOOOOOO in theory 25% roos will have 2 barring genes, 25% will have 1 barring gene, 25% of the pullets will be barred and 25% will be SOLID.

Cream Legbars PULLETS would produce the same results as above. A Cream Legbar Roo over the pullets should breed true.

Did I get you the right answer?

 

[mstricer]

Yes thank you. I'm a visual person so reading it takes me a long time.

 

[DMRippy]

Yes thank you. I'm a visual person so reading it takes me a long time.

I am too. I understand that. If I had a way to make punnett squares that would help... I think. One day I will make a template in my drawing program and then I can just make a picture of it to post. Cut and past does not work on the way I make them

 

[Hangtown Farms]

OK, not sure I understand your questions. If you use a Barred Roo with one copy of the barring gene and breed him with pullets from the same cross, you will get the same mix. Some roos with 2 copies and some with 1. The roo can only pass his copy to HALF the chicks so 25% of the roo and 25% of the pullets from the hatch. The Barred pullet will pass the barring to 100% of the roos and 0% to pullets (she can't pass the barring to pullets because she only has the barring on the genes that make roos) SOOOOOO in theory 25% roos will have 2 barring genes, 25% will have 1 barring gene, 25% of the pullets will be barred and 25% will be SOLID.

Cream Legbars PULLETS would produce the same results as above. A Cream Legbar Roo over the pullets should breed true.

Did I get you the right answer?

You are correct. works the same way with crele penedesenca. you can use partridge to diversify the crele.

if you use a cream legbar rooster over a crele pendesenca hen or visa versa the chicks will be autosexable and breed true.
legbar and crele penedesenca roosters are double barred both hens are single. You will get the same.
I should have good numbers of crele penedesenca rooster chicks in the spring. just sayin. Deann at just struttin is breeding these now. I will in the spring.

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: Speaking of Partridge... I just hatched some "partridge splits" I don't know what else to call them. They all have very faint spots on their heads.... would that be right? Is my splash hiding some barring? or would partridge show a a slight spot? I know partridge would have chipmunk stripes. They are a very even color with a little tiny spot on their heads..... IDK if that would be normal.

 

[Goose and Fig]

My lav silver duckwing birds have spots and chipmunk baby stripes.