The Pita Pinta Asturiana

[PetRock]

Hi everyone! I'm finding this discussion of genetics and line breeding fascinating. Thanks Ron for the chart! My goal in hatching this year is to find 1 breed that I want to breed to the SOP. I'm looking at Pita Pintas as one of my possible choices (also SFH and W/BW Am). If I choose the Pitas would it be better to get eggs from multiple sources or start with 1 and then add new blood in a year or 2? @ronott1 Do you have more than 1 pen or are you able to mark the eggs so that I can tell who are full siblings?
Also, any quick links for further reading?

The only one of your 3 breeds that is included in the American SOP is the W/BW Ameraucana. We are looking at the Spanish SOP for the Pita Pinta since they are new to this country and very limited in numbers. I do hope that you join us in breeding Pita Pinta. The more of us working on them the better for the breed. I think that I've already posted some links for more reading on Pita Pinta but if you can't find them, just let me know and I'll send them to you.

 

[Kaylish]

The only one of your 3 breeds that is included in the American SOP is the W/BW Ameraucana. We are looking at the Spanish SOP for the Pita Pinta since they are new to this country and very limited in numbers. I do hope that you join us in breeding Pita Pinta. The more of us working on them the better for the breed. I think that I've already posted some links for more reading on Pita Pinta but if you can't find them, just let me know and I'll send them to you.

Thank you!
I know the Ameraucanas are the only 1 of the 3 that I could show (in the US). I'm not sure if the SFH even have a written standard since they are a land race but I already have 1 and LOVE her so I'm going to hatch a few more.

The Pitas I find absolutly stunning and everyones description of their personality has me very interested. And I love the thought of preserving a rare and unique breed. I'm going to read back thru the thread again over next week or two and I'm sure I'll find the links that you've posted in the past.

I'm still researching as much as I can but I know whatever I decide I will have to be very selective in choosing my breeders since I will be limited to only 1 pen (due to space and DHs rule on roosters).

 

[caychris]

Thank you!
I know the Ameraucanas are the only 1 of the 3 that I could show (in the US). I'm not sure if the SFH even have a written standard since they are a land race but I already have 1 and LOVE her so I'm going to hatch a few more.

The Pitas I find absolutly stunning and everyones description of their personality has me very interested. And I love the thought of preserving a rare and unique breed. I'm going to read back thru the thread again over next week or two and I'm sure I'll find the links that you've posted in the past.

I'm still researching as much as I can but I know whatever I decide I will have to be very selective in choosing my breeders since I will be limited to only 1 pen (due to space and DHs rule on roosters).

Im hoping to have a breeding trio of Barred Hollands out of the eggs debi is hatching. Im also hoping to be able to get another breeders eggs soon as well as get additional eggs from them in later years. This is probably the rarest of the American Heritage breeds and there are so few breeders and none that Ive found on the west coast. (Sorry for the non pita spam)

Im hoping that by me bringing Ron and Debis birds together that it will help the breed.

I seem to have this affinity for rare breeds. Delaware, Cream Legbar (though they are popular these days), Pita Pinta and now Barred Hollands.

Looks like I need to get moving on finding a piece of property.

 

[PetRock]

Thank you!
I know the Ameraucanas are the only 1 of the 3 that I could show (in the US). I'm not sure if the SFH even have a written standard since they are a land race but I already have 1 and LOVE her so I'm going to hatch a few more.

The Pitas I find absolutly stunning and everyones description of their personality has me very interested. And I love the thought of preserving a rare and unique breed. I'm going to read back thru the thread again over next week or two and I'm sure I'll find the links that you've posted in the past.

I'm still researching as much as I can but I know whatever I decide I will have to be very selective in choosing my breeders since I will be limited to only 1 pen (due to space and DHs rule on roosters).

You know that my vote is for the Pita Pinta! I've never owned a SFH but I have had BW Ameraucana plus a whole bunch of other breeds. The Pita Pinta satisfy every requirement that I have for a breed. They are friendly and easy to handle, great egg layers, good for meat, hardy in heat & cold, and beautiful! I understand DH and their rules on roosters. I was fortunate to find a friend with 10 acres who is easy going and willing to let me keep my roosters on her farm.

 

[Kaylish]

Im hoping to have a breeding trio of Barred Hollands out of the eggs debi is hatching. Im also hoping to be able to get another breeders eggs soon as well as get additional eggs from them in later years. This is probably the rarest of the American Heritage breeds and there are so few breeders and none that Ive found on the west coast. (Sorry for the non pita spam)

Im hoping that by me bringing Ron and Debis birds together that it will help the breed.

I seem to have this affinity for rare breeds. Delaware, Cream Legbar (though they are popular these days), Pita Pinta and now Barred Hollands.

Looks like I need to get moving on finding a piece of property.

Had to look up the Hollands - nice looking birds.

you get your trio! I have 2 CLB, both very goldish and nowhere near the proposed SOP; eggs are about medium sized and I get 3-4/week from each - sweet girls though.

You know that my vote is for the Pita Pinta! I've never owned a SFH but I have had BW Ameraucana plus a whole bunch of other breeds. The Pita Pinta satisfy every requirement that I have for a breed. They are friendly and easy to handle, great egg layers, good for meat, hardy in heat & cold, and beautiful! I understand DH and their rules on roosters. I was fortunate to find a friend with 10 acres who is easy going and willing to let me keep my roosters on her farm.

I'd be in so much trouble if I had 10 acres...maybe having to concentrate on 1 breed will be a blessing in disguise.

 

[ronott1]

I have three pita pinta eggs in the incubator--In 5 days I will know if the hens are laying fertile eggs now!

 

[Kaylish]

I have three pita pinta eggs in the incubator--In 5 days I will know if the hens are laying fertile eggs now!

Here's Hoping!

 

[Flowers of Abba]

Yes! The chicks I hatch this year will breed with, for example, chicks that I hatch or get from your flock next year and they will be f3 to your f3. We do it all again in three more years. Each time we should get better(closer to standard) flocks.

My teatime plan is to file my flock under the date and parentage of my first trio. This fall I will remove siblings and breed daughters to father. Each year I will choose the best rooster of the previous generations hatch. At my year three I would like to bring in a flock of one of someone elses previous generations if possible.

Megans flock came from a big flock full of genetics so they are not the first inbreeding of them. We now have the limited genetics from her original flock. Megan's flock that we got the eggs from are from the eggs hatched from Spain. Megan bread Brother to sisters. That spreads the genes and is ok for a couple of times. Then you need to start breeding back to the parent. After that it gets to the point where I have to look at the breeding chart--and work to understand it. We can wait until we get to the fifth, where a new line is added but it will not really be a new line. The Genes will still be shuffled. It would be great to get a new importation by the 5th generation though. One of us must win the lottery! Or use crowd funding?

I wonder the cost.... we could all start selling eggs In a year or so and collaborate in an agreement . Has anyone actually done a calculation? How many thousand dollars would get us how many eggs? ...

 

[ronott1]

My teatime plan is to file my flock under the date and parentage of my first trio. This fall I will remove siblings and breed daughters to father. Each year I will choose the best rooster of the previous generations hatch. At my year three I would like to bring in a flock of one of someone elses previous generations if possible.
I wonder the cost.... we could all start selling eggs In a year or so and collaborate in an agreement . Has anyone actually done a calculation? How many thousand dollars would get us how many eggs? ...

Jason @Hangtown Farms Is very close to getting Penedesenca and empordensa eggs from Spain. We should know a cost when he gets his going.

 

[dldolan]

Megans flock came from a big flock full of genetics so they are not the first inbreeding of them. We now have the limited genetics from her original flock.

Megan's flock that we got the eggs from are from the eggs hatched from Spain.

Megan bread Brother to sisters. That spreads the genes and is ok for a couple of times. Then you need to start breeding back to the parent. After that it gets to the point where I have to look at the breeding chart--and work to understand it.



We can wait until we get to the fifth, where a new line is added but it will not really be a new line. The Genes will still be shuffled. It would be great to get a new importation by the 5th generation though.

One of us must win the lottery!

Or use crowd funding?

I like the crowd funding idea!

With my Marans, I did add back in at generation 4 (this year), as I was starting to see some faults last hatch. The addition of Bev Davis birds (straight from her) to "my" line of Marans this year will hopefully cure those issues. But could also bring in different ones! ARGH!!!