The Pita Pinta Asturiana

[ronott1]

Thanks for sharing this info. I've hatched a lot of Pita Pinta (200ish) and this is the first one with this defect. Here is my defect count. It seems like there was something else but I can't recall what it is.

Rumpless 1
Blue Eyes 1
Cross Beak 2
White legs 10-15
Crooked keels ??? We processed 6-8 cockerels and I found 2 pullets in my breeding flock and another 1 in my laying flock

White legs and blue eyes are for sure in the gene pool. The other faults have causes other than genes though.

Some of them are birth defects.

 

[PetRock]

Thanks for sharing this info. I've hatched a lot of Pita Pinta (200ish) and this is the first one with this defect. Here is my defect count. It seems like there was something else but I can't recall what it is.

Rumpless 1
Blue Eyes 1
Cross Beak 2
White legs 10-15
Crooked keels ??? We processed 6-8 cockerels and I found 2 pullets in my breeding flock and another 1 in my laying flock

I remember the 1 that I forgot. In all the chicks that I've hatched, I had 1 with wry neck. The vitamin treatment didn't work for her and she will be joining the extra boys at freezer camp later in June. This was a case where I wish that she was a he.

 

[caychris]

I remember the 1 that I forgot. In all the chicks that I've hatched, I had 1 with wry neck. The vitamin treatment didn't work for her and she will be joining the extra boys at freezer camp later in June. This was a case where I wish that she was a he.

I didnt think wry neck was so much a genetic condition as much as it was developmental nutrition

 

[PetRock]

I didnt think wry neck was so much a genetic condition as much as it was developmental nutrition

I am just compiling a list of the problems that I have seen in all the chicks that I have hatched. Some are genetic and some are developmental. I wish that I knew for sure which ones are genetic.

 

[caychris]

I am just compiling a list of the problems that I have seen in all the chicks that I have hatched. Some are genetic and some are developmental. I wish that I knew for sure which ones are genetic.

I think with the possible exception of wry neck all of the developmental conditions have a genetic component that makes them at risk for the developmental issues.

Have you seen wry tails yet?

 

[ronott1]

I am just compiling a list of the problems that I have seen in all the chicks that I have hatched. Some are genetic and some are developmental. I wish that I knew for sure which ones are genetic.

I think with the possible exception of wry neck all of the developmental conditions have a genetic component that makes them at risk for the developmental issues.

Have you seen wry tails yet?

genetic problems will be passed on in a predictable pattern.

Gene mutations that lead to deformities are universally fatal. What usually happens is a change within the gene pool. A population of white moths become gray moths because of ash on trees--because there is a small number of gray moths in the gene pool and they are not eaten by the birds. After the ash is gone, then the gray moths stand out and are eaten. That is natural selection not a genetic change.

Birth defects are not caused by a genetic change but by something that went wrong. If you only see one cross beak out of 200 hatches, it is not genetic and cross beak is fatal since the chicken cannot eat to live and replicate.

Another example is toe problems. Curled down towards the foot is genetic while curled sideways is not.

Do not breed using chickens with birth defects but expect them to happen sometimes. It is normal with all breeds.

 

[PetRock]

genetic problems will be passed on in a predictable pattern.

Gene mutations that lead to deformities are universally fatal. What usually happens is a change within the gene pool. A population of white moths become gray moths because of ash on trees--because there is a small number of gray moths in the gene pool and they are not eaten by the birds. After the ash is gone, then the gray moths stand out and are eaten. That is natural selection not a genetic change.

Birth defects are not caused by a genetic change but by something that went wrong. If you only see one cross beak out of 200 hatches, it is not genetic and cross beak is fatal since the chicken cannot eat to live and replicate.

Another example is toe problems. Curled down towards the foot is genetic while curled sideways is not.

Do not breed using chickens with birth defects but expect them to happen sometimes. It is normal with all breeds.

Thank you, Ron. That is interesting about the toes. I suppose that will be the next thing I'll see in my chicks!

 

[PetRock]

I think with the possible exception of wry neck all of the developmental conditions have a genetic component that makes them at risk for the developmental issues.

Have you seen wry tails yet?

Hmmm...not that I know of. I haven't had anyone that bought chicks report back about it.

 

[PetRock]

Ron, so the white legs and the crooked keels are genetic? Have you had any birds with blue eyes? I'm wondering since I've only had 1 bird with them if it was a mutation and not something passed down genetically.

 

[Henthused]

Hi Debi,
Your chicks that I hatched are perfect right now.