The Plymouth Rock Breeders thread

[Egghead_Jr]

The reason why only blue color is showed in the blue/black/splash is that is the color that displays lacing. With an Andalusian and Blue Plymouth Rock lacing is the standard. This does not follow through with all breeds of blue variety. Blue Jersey Giants for example are not laced.


Edit to add that I've been told that in a well laced line (top quality) of Andalusians you can actually see lacing in the splash birds as well. I'd guess it's incomplete but really tells you how strong the pattern is. I truly adore the blue variety. You get three colors from one variety and when up to standard get beautiful lacing too.

 

[Wynette]

The reason why only blue color is showed in the blue/black/splash is that is the color that displays lacing. With an Andalusian and Blue Plymouth Rock lacing is the standard. This does not follow through with all breeds of blue variety. Blue Jersey Giants for example are not laced.


Edit to add that I've been told that in a well laced line (top quality) of Andalusians you can actually see lacing in the splash birds as well. I'd guess it's incomplete but really tells you how strong the pattern is. I truly adore the blue variety. You get three colors from one variety and when up to standard get beautiful lacing too.

A couple quick corrections to this (no offense intended); in blues, what you're discussing here is actually "edging," not lacing. Lacing is black, edging is any other color (with the blues, the eding is actually dark blue, not black). Also, Blue Giants are, in fact, edged (well, they should be). I've bred exhibition Giants for a number of years.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

I stand corrected on the Blue Jersey Giants.

Apparently, as I'm thumbing through the 2010 APA SOP book, all blue plumage birds call for distinct lacing of black. Goes to show how easy it is to loose the standard when you view blue birds. Hard variety to maintain.

 

[Wynette]

I stand corrected on the Blue Jersey Giants.

Apparently, as I'm thumbing through the 2010 APA SOP book, all blue plumage birds call for distinct lacing of black. Goes to show how easy it is to loose the standard when you view blue birds. Hard variety to maintain.

It says black lacing for blues in the standard? Holy cow. It's most definitely very dark blue on Blue Giants. I've never been called out at a show for not having black...interesting. Thanks for posting!

 

[Silver Rock]

The Blue varieties of poultry should have black lacing. There is the Self Blue varieties that has no lacing as they carry no lacing in their genotype and in fact they carry a lavender gene and not the blue. The Self Blue varieties will also breed true were the Blue varieties will not.

 

[Wynette]

The Blue varieties of poultry should have black lacing. There is the Self Blue varieties that has no lacing as they carry no lacing in their genotype and in fact they carry a lavender gene and not the blue. The Self Blue varieties will also breed true were the Blue varieties will not.

Well, I'm looking at my Blue Giants, they have edging, and it's dark blue, not black. I have placed as high as reserve champ. american (in large classes) with my line, with no comments from any judge thus far indicating the edging is the wrong color. But...thanks for your comment.

Sorry, PR folks, for the hijack! Back to PR stuff!

 

[Fred's Hens]

The Blue Plymouth Rock, according to the SOP, refers you right back to page 37 on Blue. (2010 edition)

In describing every feather area, the description is always glossy black lacing. If a Rock has a different kind of blue, ie self blue, etc, it simply doesn't meet the Standard, I'd say, just going by what's in front of me in the Big Grey Book.

My question is this. Who on BYC would show us a photo or two of their SOP Blue Rocks?

 

[Silver Rock]

Hi Fred, I may be wrong but I think there is only one breed in the Standard that has the Self Blue variety in Large Fowl and that is the Old English Game.

 

[tigercreek]

The Blue Plymouth Rock, according to the SOP, refers you right back to page 37 on Blue. (2010 edition)

In describing every feather area, the description is always glossy black lacing. If a Rock has a different kind of blue, ie self blue, etc, it simply doesn't meet the Standard, I'd say, just going by what's in front of me in the Big Grey Book.

My question is this. Who on BYC would show us a photo or two of their SOP Blue Rocks?

there is only one person that I know of that is breeding blue laced rocks. I'll see if I can find a pic of his. He hatched some of mine that were bred from Good Shepherd pullets with a splash cock from a long time BYC 'blue rock' seller. He told me they were edged and not laced. He sent me pics of his birds that are bred from a white rock and a blue Andalusian. Looked liike a very nice bird but I am not knowledegable enough to see the difference in edging and lacing. I was under the impression that all blue came from Andalusian except the self blue (lavender). Anyway, here is a pic of a blue with edging, I'll try to get his permission to show his pullet pic...........stan

 

[tigercreek]

a pic of a blue laced pullet from Emenheiser, posted in the blue Plymouth Rock thread: