I don't post here any longer due to personal reasons, but I'm going to give that a rest just one more time...because I do read on here still. I've known Fred for the years I've been on here and I've never once seen the man be rude to anyone here...even in situations where it was difficult to not come back with a harsh comment...like this one. He's nothing but a gentleman~a teacher, with a commitment to learning, teaching and helping others on this site. More than that even, he acts like a true friend to people he's never even met before and that speaks of his kindness and sincerity.
Just because the site is called backyard chickens, it doesn't mean we can't have scholars here...there are many kinds of chickens kept in a backyard and some of them are show royalty...and some are just chickens. There are thousands of threads on this site devoted to just chickens and only a few devoted to the study of what makes top quality in certain breeds. This is one of those threads and that is clearly stated by the first page, so any misunderstanding about the replies given here would be due to a misunderstanding of that very first page, the qualifiers therein and what this thread is trying to accomplish..it's called education. And, no, not all teachers sugar coat their replies to a student's question, particularly if the student didn't bother to read the instructions or the materials being taught in the class.
I saw the chicken and I read the replies. I think the replies were very gently phrased and also full of good information for anyone seriously contemplating taking their chickens to a good show. If a simple "no" would have been given, then one would leave the thread wondering exactly why it wasn't show quality. That the answers were more detailed shows the exact opposite of rudeness, they showed a willingness to teach the "why" of something, which takes more time and thoughtfulness than a mere "no". Anyone truly concerned with the quality of their breed or chicken should fully welcome a more detailed response about their bird....unless someone were not truly concerned with quality and just merely came here carrying a huge chip on the shoulder.
I don't know a ding diddly dang about showing chickens but when I saw that pic I laughed out loud. Sorry...but I did. I'm not elite, nor do I own any show chickens or aspire to own any, but even I can see the obvious faults in the bird. I'm sure those with more knowledge and a better eye than I could have laughed about that bird, as I had done, right here in this thread, but they didn't. They were kind, they sought to teach, and they took time out of their lives to do that for a complete stranger. It's a sign of maturity if one can receive such information and not take it personally, just because it wasn't what they wanted to hear. A simple "no" would have been the more rude answer, as it doesn't take as much time or thought and doesn't even tell a person "why", but just seeks to get past the moment as quickly as possible.
That brings me to another point to be made here~when someone comes seeking free advice, it is never free...it takes time to think, compose a response, and share that response. Those not liking the answers to free advice and feel the need to complain about it are truly those most rude in that situation...these people are not paid to answer your questions, nor are they likely to want to continue to help others when their time is so unappreciated. Actually, that's one of the reasons I no longer post to BYC...the ungrateful children who believe my time is their play thing and I should spend it all so they won't have to do any real research or work with their poultry. Those with the audacity to ask for advice and then complain about the advice they clearly asked for....do they sound at all familiar?
Good work on this thread, y'all, keep it up...keep on kickin' that can down the road!
I read this place like there's going to be a test later.
Just because the site is called backyard chickens, it doesn't mean we can't have scholars here...there are many kinds of chickens kept in a backyard and some of them are show royalty...and some are just chickens. There are thousands of threads on this site devoted to just chickens and only a few devoted to the study of what makes top quality in certain breeds. This is one of those threads and that is clearly stated by the first page, so any misunderstanding about the replies given here would be due to a misunderstanding of that very first page, the qualifiers therein and what this thread is trying to accomplish..it's called education. And, no, not all teachers sugar coat their replies to a student's question, particularly if the student didn't bother to read the instructions or the materials being taught in the class.
I saw the chicken and I read the replies. I think the replies were very gently phrased and also full of good information for anyone seriously contemplating taking their chickens to a good show. If a simple "no" would have been given, then one would leave the thread wondering exactly why it wasn't show quality. That the answers were more detailed shows the exact opposite of rudeness, they showed a willingness to teach the "why" of something, which takes more time and thoughtfulness than a mere "no". Anyone truly concerned with the quality of their breed or chicken should fully welcome a more detailed response about their bird....unless someone were not truly concerned with quality and just merely came here carrying a huge chip on the shoulder.
I don't know a ding diddly dang about showing chickens but when I saw that pic I laughed out loud. Sorry...but I did. I'm not elite, nor do I own any show chickens or aspire to own any, but even I can see the obvious faults in the bird. I'm sure those with more knowledge and a better eye than I could have laughed about that bird, as I had done, right here in this thread, but they didn't. They were kind, they sought to teach, and they took time out of their lives to do that for a complete stranger. It's a sign of maturity if one can receive such information and not take it personally, just because it wasn't what they wanted to hear. A simple "no" would have been the more rude answer, as it doesn't take as much time or thought and doesn't even tell a person "why", but just seeks to get past the moment as quickly as possible.
That brings me to another point to be made here~when someone comes seeking free advice, it is never free...it takes time to think, compose a response, and share that response. Those not liking the answers to free advice and feel the need to complain about it are truly those most rude in that situation...these people are not paid to answer your questions, nor are they likely to want to continue to help others when their time is so unappreciated. Actually, that's one of the reasons I no longer post to BYC...the ungrateful children who believe my time is their play thing and I should spend it all so they won't have to do any real research or work with their poultry. Those with the audacity to ask for advice and then complain about the advice they clearly asked for....do they sound at all familiar?
Good work on this thread, y'all, keep it up...keep on kickin' that can down the road!
