The predator I never expected

[Cherib603]

Centrarchid - being from Salem, Massachusetts, I understand "Witch Hunt" better than most. I saw no evidence of a Witch Hunt. It's been 2 years and nobody has gone after the suspect. Circumstantial evidence is pretty convincing that the boy is the one who killed the turkey. The original poster has kept her mouth shut for two years and has felt very frustrated and wants to give this boy a piece of her mind. I doubt it will do any good, as kids who gleefully kill an animal are not likely to be moved by a talking-to.

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[bantamrooster]

Centrarchid - being from Salem, Massachusetts, I understand "Witch Hunt" better than most. I saw no evidence of a Witch Hunt. It's been 2 years and nobody has gone after the suspect. Circumstantial evidence is pretty convincing that the boy is the one who killed the turkey. The original poster has kept her mouth shut for two years and has felt very frustrated and wants to give this boy a piece of her mind. I doubt it will do any good, as kids who gleefully kill an animal are not likely to be moved by a talking-to.

Im not from salem and although i thought i had a good understanding of the term i went ahead and looked it up.
Im not getting it either. It was first brought up about the original post and then about the reply about it may be illegal to have kept the turkey in the first place.
I really dont see where it applies to either myself.
Maybe i need more education lol but I think youre onto something here.

 

[waddles99]

I think what centrarchid is implying is that the op might have been committing an illegal act by hatching wild turkey eggs and raising the poults. And that by reporting the crime of killing the bird, the authorities might look into where the bird came from and persecute the op for having them. A "witch hunt" may be a little extreme term.

 

[centrarchid]

Usually is it a political term, no actual witches. Limited evidence, sometimes not based on fact of any sort, is brought forth by first party to persecute a second party where third parties make little effort to vet information. It is often emotion driven. Salem far from first such as been done. Victims often not able to defend themselves in anyway.

 

[centrarchid]

I think what centrarchid is implying is that the op might have been committing an illegal act by hatching wild turkey eggs and raising the poults. And that by reporting the crime of killing the bird, the authorities might look into where the bird came from and persecute the op for having them. A "witch hunt" may be a little extreme term. 

Possession of turkey by OP likely illegal, that part correct. "Witch hunt" refers to what OP was promoting by posting as done and a couple other posters providing initial support participated in. OP's second post clearly nailed what was going on.

 

[waddles99]

Possession of turkey by OP likely illegal, that part correct. "Witch hunt" refers to what OP was promoting by posting as done and a couple other posters providing initial support participated in. OP's second post clearly nailed what was going on.

Now I understand what you mean. Even so, it being 2 years, the statute of limitations has likely passed.

 

[bantamrooster]

Possession of turkey by OP likely illegal, that part correct. "Witch hunt" refers to what OP was promoting by posting as done and a couple other posters providing initial support participated in. OP's second post clearly nailed what was going on.

But why bother posting that?
This is a very young person that is hurting over a loss. Frustrated with why and how the loss occured. And feeling alone in her emotional attachment with a pet others may not see as a real pet.
I assume she came here and posted in hopes of finding others that understand her hurt and the attachment she had with her lost pet.
I dont get it. Right or wrong i dont think this was the type of thread to throw that kind of reply in.
Geez this is a young child hurting and in mourning.

 

[mabelineandliz]

I've read over everything, I'm not going to tag anyone but I just want to say that I understand that these particular eggs were taken from the wild, but also the mother was killed accidentally by my step dad. An argument of "circle of life" would be invalid because the mother died because of a human. Also, it is actually legal to acquire wild turkey eggs and poults and raise them, ether to release on your land or to keep. Although we did not have the most ideal home for this bird, we did our best and she hadn't gotten out before and probably never would have had it not stormed that night. We did not and will not prosecute this kid, I'd didn't post this to get advice about how to prosecute or get justice, because I know that is not a realistic outcome. I just wanted to share my story and see if there were others with similar experiences. I'm sorry this started an argument, that wasn't my intention.

 

[Cherib603]

You have every right to be upset. I know I would feel the same in your situation. Thanks for reminding us that there are plenty of 2 legged predators out there.

 

[chickengeorgeto]

Usually is it a political term, no actual witches. Limited evidence, sometimes not based on fact of any sort, is brought forth by first party to persecute a second party where third parties make little effort to vet information. It is often emotion driven. Salem far from first such as been done. Victims often not able to defend themselves in anyway.I

I think that the term used in a court of law is "hear say evidence" and that is what centrarchid is referring to.

And yes, during the Salem Witch Trials the defendants legal burden was to prove the negative or that they were not witches or warlocks.

Good luck proving that because I don't think that even the moderators of this forum could prove that they're not space aliens.

In the Twenty First Century the legal standard is "innocent until proven guilty" which is a much harder burden on the persecution... excuse me, I meant prosecution.