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The more I read the more confused I get I need a breeding chart for dummies that tells exactly what breed to start with
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Welcome to the Rhodebar thread.
Looks like you are here in TN.
Are you looking for RIR for a Rhodebar breeding project or just RIR in general? Production or standard bred? RC or SC? What exactly are you looking for?
I am wanting to make my own rhodebar line. I bought some from dmrippy and love them. They are light do far, but easily sexable. In my mind I think I would want standard and sc. Does that found about right? This will be my first breeding program and I want to do it right.
Thanks for the welcome, I just moved here from Iowa and am glad to be on a farm now. I have been learning alot from this group.
The more I read the more confused I get I need a breeding chart for dummies that tells exactly what breed to start with
That's my plan, keeping the darker/stripier ones. How long do you try to not look at them?@michaelf and @ Ihilani
Statistically id give the darker striped ones a 75% chance of being being female and the lighter a 75% chance of being male.
My opinion, FWIW ;-) I would mark and use only the darker striped group.
Tail sexing in a few weeks has proven to be pretty accurate if you just can't stand. Lol
What I did was mark them as chicks. Then at 6 weeks I divided them into two separate grow out pens. I try not to look too closely at them every day when I feed and water... It makes grow out pass quicker.
That's what I am interested in is the breeding project what do I need to breed together to get F1 read RIRXBR then read that wasn't right so could someone please explain
The world of Rhodebars is a very confusing one. I am just in the improvement stage working with 1 Rhodebar rooster over HRIR hens. None of mine came out yellow, BUT I believe my line of Reds is recessive wheaten. I am aiming for ease of autosexing so I am working more towards wildtype rather then wheaten. In other words, I will cull wheaten looking chicks. Back in the day the genotype of Rhodebar was wheaten (as shown by the Standard), however some (including myself) are working towards a more easily autosexing line and are aiming more towards wildtype. Your chipmunk stripe chicks should all be auto sexed as female but the yellow one could be male or could be female, and that is where the problem comes in when you are trying to obtain an easily auto sexed line.Okay...I'm new to Rhodebars as I just hatched some eggs under a broody hen (or rather she did). They are 2 days old.
I have what I think are 3 pullets and 1 roo per coloring as confirmed by the breeder (who is working to improve her line and remove all wheaten)....I've got 2 darker chipmunks with no head dot, 1 lighter/yellowish chipmunk with no head dot, and then a yellow chick which *may* have a very indistinguishable head dot...or simply all yellow.
I'm confused after reading this thread...and the much linked Greenfire Farm is part of the confusion...along with the discussion that wheaten is bad.
Greenfire shows males as dark with white head dot, and the females chipmunks with no head dot...wheaten (yellow) per discussion on this thread is considered undesirable as harder to sex???...but when you scroll to Greenfire's to purchase area, the photo of the male chick for sale is all yellow....making it appear the females are chipmunks (no head dot) and the males are yellow (no head dot, or often pale head dot).
http://greenfirefarms.com/store/category/chickens/rhodebar/
So...is the yellow indeed a roo, but wheatan and "bad" ?
As I am watching them (now 3 days), the yellow chicks are already getting wing feathers in, but the darker chipmunk chicks are not....so that adds to the confusion.
What's up? (Other than my personal confusion).
I'm planning on re-homing the rooster (I've gotten the Rhodebars for laying/utility purposes not breeding), so I personally don't care what color they are as long as they lay well....but I want to be accurate and truthful to anyone who gets the rooster...assuming I find a home.
Thanks.
Lady of McCamley
Photos below...sorry no real close ups...this broody is a first time nervous mom, and I didn't want to stress her too much with an extended photo shoot or messing with the chicks too much until she settled (didn't want her abandoning the whole project).
The world of Rhodebars is a very confusing one. I am just in the improvement stage working with 1 Rhodebar rooster over HRIR hens. None of mine came out yellow, BUT I believe my line of Reds is recessive wheaten. I am aiming for ease of autosexing so I am working more towards wildtype rather then wheaten. In other words, I will cull wheaten looking chicks. Back in the day the genotype of Rhodebar was wheaten (as shown by the Standard), however some (including myself) are working towards a more easily autosexing line and are aiming more towards wildtype. Your chipmunk stripe chicks should all be auto sexed as female but the yellow one could be male or could be female, and that is where the problem comes in when you are trying to obtain an easily auto sexed line.
As far as faster feathering, our F1's (Rhodebar over HRIR) showed faster feathering in the females BUT that is not to say that that will be the case with Rhodebars. I would try to find a cockerel that did not hatch out yellow and cull the yellow one. If that's not an option then use him but start weeding out yellow in future generations.
And a big thumbs up to your broody hen for a job well done.
Penny