The specie of geese and how to get goose brooded?

[Andrejki]

My problem is about to identify the specie of geese I have. I ll attach photos and videos (maybe, edit: I can't). It is a male female couple. She laid 11 eggs, first ones. I am afraid that she won't broode?
She lives alone with her partner. They all have very big separate space. I am looking for tips how to make her broode. My grandpa used to collect her eggs and to wait for her to brood, but geese are specific animals unlike chickens. Most of them actually don't won't to broode. So i decided to puz all 11 eggs to her basket and see what she will do.


What do you think about that?
She is less than a year old, about 8 months. And her spouse. The spouse has "strange" anatomy, you can see, but he is doing his job excellently. He s defending the nest even.

About the specie, they are bought in the multicultural region of Vojvodina. In my language people call them "Italian", or "Hungarian", but both of them are different specie. It is white, so it s harder to guess?


If you know someone can help, I d ve glad!

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

I'm not really familiar with geese breeds (and you're right, them being white makes that a little harder!) But I don't think theres a specific way to force a bird to go broody, is it possible for you to get or build an incubator? That way you could hatch some goslings without waiting to see if your goose will go broody or not! : D Good luck!

 

[Goosebaby]

They’re white geese and considering that you said they’re sometimes called “Italian” my guess is that they’re what we in America call Roman Geese, which are one of the oldest breeds in the world.

You Can’t really make her go broody, it’s something she’ll decide to do on her own, but from what I can tell you about my Roman goose is that she didn’t go broody her first year, she’ll be more likely her second year, 8 months is very young for a Roman Goose to go broody.

 

[iturnknobs]

My problem is about to identify the specie of geese I have. I ll attach photos and videos (maybe, edit: I can't). It is a male female couple. She laid 11 eggs, first ones. I am afraid that she won't broode?
She lives alone with her partner. They all have very big separate space. I am looking for tips how to make her broode. My grandpa used to collect her eggs and to wait for her to brood, but geese are specific animals unlike chickens. Most of them actually don't won't to broode. So i decided to puz all 11 eggs to her basket and see what she will do.


What do you think about that?
She is less than a year old, about 8 months. And her spouse. The spouse has "strange" anatomy, you can see, but he is doing his job excellently. He s defending the nest even.

About the specie, they are bought in the multicultural region of Vojvodina. In my language people call them "Italian", or "Hungarian", but both of them are different specie. It is white, so it s harder to guess?


If you know someone can help, I d ve glad!

The "strange" anatomy you are referring to is a condition caused by dietary problem called "angel wing". Do some reading on the subject so it doesn't happen to your goslings that will be on the way shortly.

 

[Andrejki]

I'm not really familiar with geese breeds (and you're right, them being white makes that a little harder!) But I don't think theres a specific way to force a bird to go broody, is it possible for you to get or build an incubator? That way you could hatch some goslings without waiting to see if your goose will go broody or not! : D Good luck!

Hey, thank you. Yes, being a white goose and searching for a ID is like a Don Quijote fight with windmills.
I may contact some people in Serbia again.
The mother of these geese is from a man who lives in Syrmia (region mainly in Serbia and partly in Croatia), so they know the best. I will surely come up with the answer what breed it is or is it mixed, domestic or...
Now it seems like it is a Syrmian goose, maybe Banat goose or Bačka goose. (guska is a Serbian translation for a goose, and all those regions are in North Serbia). So, definetely I should contact them once again.

Well, I have heard in Serbia on geese forums (people couldn't help me to identify the specie even with a larger flock and videos) something regarding the incubators. Nevertheless, the specie it is not important now so much. However, regarding the geese forums in Serbia - people have problems with incubators - many eggs won't develop successfully. Even with bought incubators.

However, there is an incubator trick. Heh. If you have any other animal like turkey and even a chick that gets brooded, you can lay down the goose eggs instead of their own eggs and to produce them like that.
My grandpa has taught me that.
However, there is a trick regarding the eggs. The geese eggs have a very thick shell. So, the most important thing regarding the geese eggs is to somewhere on the 15th day of some other chick or turkey or duck laying on them - to start wetting the egg. My grandpa successfully did that every couple of days from 15th day approximately, and when it was a final day for geese to breed, he just helped 4 eggs - by making a small whole, very tiny whole, just for them to have air. The fifth egg even didn't have to get a whole from my grandpa, it was born naturally.

So, regarding the incubators, people should know that they have to mimic the goose behaviour when she's brooded and laying on eggs, because a goose is wetting her eggs from the 15th days. I guess you all know that. And maybe that's the reason why people here with incubators can't really produce geese. I right now have no time for an incubator - in a way to make it, but I ve shared a natural incubator trick which anyone in the community can try. Goose do that because she is aware of the thing that her eggs are very shell powered, so she soften it with water and when she is laying on eggs, the heat she produce is making the eggs' shell becoming softer - and the baby goose can get out. Funny thing. Thanks!

They’re white geese and considering that you said they’re sometimes called “Italian” my guess is that they’re what we in America call Roman Geese, which are one of the oldest breeds in the world.

You Can’t really make her go broody, it’s something she’ll decide to do on her own, but from what I can tell you about my Roman goose is that she didn’t go broody her first year, she’ll be more likely her second year, 8 months is very young for a Roman Goose to go broody.

Hey, thanks very much. It is not tufted Roman Goose, I've researched and there is a Classic Roman Goose. Nevertheless, the specie is not important now - only in terms of getting brooded. I ve mentioned above.

Yes, 8 months is very short period of time, I guess maybe with spring here she may get brooded, but depends. However, goose eggs can stay for a longer period of time and to be still fertile, so I will wait for her, and put eggs under the chicks maybe.
Regarding the trick how to make them broody. Well, my grandpa is a farmer his whole life, he said that giving yeast/ferment to chickens help them to get brooded.
Maybe it doesn't have the same effect on geese, though, but who knows.
Well, the Roman Goose whether Classic or Tufted saved the Rome literally. Which is a very nice thing about goose to know.
However, their population in the world is shrinking in terms that people are not interesting for a goose meet, which is a red meat as I know - and by that much healthier than the meat of chicks - let's say.
Nevertheless, I hope your goose get broody ad you have little goslings. They are so cute. I prefer ducklings in the reality, because ducklings are more cheerful, and not agressive as goose, but ok, what to do. I had ducklngs.

The "strange" anatomy you are referring to is a condition caused by dietary problem called "angel wing". Do some reading on the subject so it doesn't happen to your goslings that will be on the way shortly.

Hey, thank you, I ll do that. So it is not genetical, but dietary, and we all thought here that it is genetical problem, but "the angel wing" is not. Which is great.

The interesting thing about mine goose is that she layed double eggs in terms of double yolk three times. They were much bigger than the rest of them and we crashed the egg and saw double yolks, but I got in the meantime three eggs from another specie Chinese Goose or African goose.

I have one more question. WIl the couple accept baby goslings if the mother goose don't get brooded and I put eggs into the incubator or under the chick?

Best regards and thanks sincerely for help to all of you, and I will update this topic when I find new information or anything.

 

[Andrejki]

Update 1: Maybe the problem in nesting lies in a fact that goose mate with her partner?
As long as they mate, she will not brood? Or should I separate them?

About the above mentioned yeast/ferment for bakery raw and fresh - yes, people apart from my grandad give it to their chicks even now. However, a goose is something else.

I don't know what is your experience?

Today, the angel wings male was pretty much angry, I dunno why, maybe because I gave the all eggs to them back yesterday. 11 for now. Yey.

 

[Andrejki]

Update 2.
The angel wing male is supposed to be angry only on me, but not on grandpa who spends most of the recent days with him. He even wanted a bit to bite me, I bet he would have done that if I got closer.
But he s very gentle, just pretending because of the goose.

The goose is starting to get broody according to grandpa. He says that she has some broody voice like chickens before they get broody completely.

 

[Andrejki]

(urgent - question at the bottom of the page)
Hi guys. So far the young goose laid more than 30 eggs.
Unfortunately, she is not preparing to get broody. The frequency of laying eggs slowed down, and she is getting mated.

Very first eggs of her were put under a broody chicken and they were wetted from the day 15, and they hatched on the day 28, but more likely 29. Out of 8 eggs under that chicken, only three eggs survived and hatched successfully. Unfortunately, they all died after hatching. One guy survived, and I put him under a chicken in a dark place, I gave him water and food, but he just didn't make it. I should have put him under a second chicken which gave birth to 2 eggs out of 6 today, the day after - although this chicken is basically an incubator.
All the eggs were from my geese, except three eggs that were from neighbours.

The problem lies in the fact that now I have only 2 gooses that I am unsure whether they would survive. Is there anything I can do? My grandpa blames the chicken for killing the goslings, but the goslings were not really happy as was the one only - but he died. However, grandpa could have a point because the chicken was hitting the gosling when I showed the gosling to her, but I dunno what happened overnight.
P.S. If you use a chicken as an incubator (duck, or turkey) be sure that animal is a very good "mother" material. As far as why they were many false eggs, when it comes to that problem, the answer might be the fact that the geese - parents are siblings.

Unfortunately, this does not answer anything about 3 eggs, one got alive - who were neighbours' eggs.
There was a problem with the broody chicken(with 8 eggs and died goslings) from the beginning, she didn't want to come back always to the same place where the eggs were and she would very often stay outdoors more than she should have stayed so maybe that could be the reason why the majority of eggs didn't turn out to be the goslings). But, the same reaction is with a good chicken because she gave birth only to a 2 out of 6 eggs. There is one egg remaining, I think it is a false one, too.

Generally speaking, if anyone needs help with determining whether any egg is false or alive, you should after approximately one week or 10 days just check the eggs on sun.
Hope I helped, cheeers.

Question is what to do now to prevent those two little ones from dying? Here is now CET half past 3 PM so there will be light until 8 PM, I can always feed them, but firstly they need to get dried. And the dead ones got dried and then died. It was a very hot day yesterday, but now it isn't and the chicken with alive goslings is in a room where is colder.

 

[Andrejki]

I left them with the mother. I hope they will not die overnight.

 

[Boomerwaffen]

My problem is about to identify the specie of geese I have. I ll attach photos and videos (maybe, edit: I can't). It is a male female couple. She laid 11 eggs, first ones. I am afraid that she won't broode?
She lives alone with her partner. They all have very big separate space. I am looking for tips how to make her broode. My grandpa used to collect her eggs and to wait for her to brood, but geese are specific animals unlike chickens. Most of them actually don't won't to broode. So i decided to puz all 11 eggs to her basket and see what she will do.


What do you think about that?
She is less than a year old, about 8 months. And her spouse. The spouse has "strange" anatomy, you can see, but he is doing his job excellently. He s defending the nest even.

About the specie, they are bought in the multicultural region of Vojvodina. In my language people call them "Italian", or "Hungarian", but both of them are different specie. It is white, so it s harder to guess?


If you know someone can help, I d ve glad!

These geese look like Embdens. The gander has a condition called Angel wing. It’s a nutritional problem seen most commonly in geese and ducks. The cause is over feeding of high protein feed and things like lots of bread. It can be corrected when it first starts but not once the bird matures. Aside from the way the joints are malformed, the animal is perfectly healthy.