thanks Cluck. I wormed them all last night with Valbazene, I am going to start there I guess first. I brought her in last night to try and get her to eat. She didnt want the regular food at all, and I noticed her crop was empty. She LOVES fresh zuchinni bread. lol. Got some cheese down her, some sugar free jello and zuchinni bread down her. She pigged out on the bread, so it's not all that bad. I checked her feet over and stuff and all looks ok. SKINNY... I didnt really notice it before, but compared to 'Toria, shes skinny. This morning she was sitting on a tire and didnt jump down for scratch. I did get her to eat a few pieces of her food, but not like normal. her poop has no blood or anything in it. I also did not see any worms in it.