The truth about most dogs lives.

[redhen]

I wont adopt from a shelter either..

 

[Wolfwoman]

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You could easily say the same of people, there ARE places where that happens.

And we'd have a LOT less problems with human overpopulation and starvation eh?

 

[redhen]

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You could easily say the same of people, there ARE places where that happens.

And we'd have a LOT less problems with human overpopulation and starvation eh?

its an idea....

 

[patandchickens]

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That is somewhere in the middle, if you ask me. I do greatly respect people like you who accidentally end up with a litter of puppies and keep them. (Although ideally the circumstances that led to the accidental litter are corrected as soon as possible so it doesn't happen again... I mean, you pretty much KNOW what happens when dogs are unaltered, supervision is seldom absolutely 100.00% effective)

But really, I think it is a rare person who can so easily keep multiple dogs (in that scenario) yet would not feel any responsibility to give a home to other homeless dogs they came across, if their household had *not* already been "filled up with" the accidental puppies.

So while it is not as simple as I am making it sound (in some pretty infrquent cases), I don't know as its as simple as *you're* making it sound either, LOL (And what you describe is not really "breeding" dogs, in the sense of 99% of what's being discussed here -- that is, intentional breeding)

JMHO,

Pat

 

[Wolfwoman]

I have and I do take in other stray dogs and I find them homes, OR their original owner. I've been doing that most of my life. I even have a separate small kennel and a run just for this purpose and for the occasional sick pup. If someone came to me and had a dog that IMMEDIATELY needed a home for whatever purpose, I'd take it and in time, find it another home. I am not keeping anymore dogs at this time because of cost, but I have no troubles keeping them for short periods to save them from shelters.

AND if Dakota hadn't had the litters that he did, and died an untimely death, I was looking into getting a MacKenzie female FOR breeding - also pups I would have kept. So yes, it would have been intentional breeding at that point, but it still would have had nothing to do with shelter dogs.

 

[australorpchick]

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Okay..."you know what, it just IS more important for me to indulge my tastes and whims than to help give a dog a home, I mean you know they're just dogs they're not PEOPLE, they're euthanized reasonably humanely in most cases, so why should I care, I don't have to watch. I want an Akita and this is America and I don't see why I shouldn't be able to buy what I want".

Feel better?

We researched akitas, read everything we could find, talked to akita owners and determined we wanted an Akita, for everything that makes it an Akita. In my opinion, choosing an Akita that was not a purebred (especially with an unknown breed mixed in) defeats the whole purpose of doing our research and making an educated choice, as well as, in my opinion for our case, irresponsible. We have two thin kids and two fat cats. I was not willing to jeopardize their safety, in order to adopt a dog with unknown triggers, who outweighed my kids. With this type of breed and their temperment, we felt it best to get a puppy. Sure we would have loved to adopt, but the odds of finding a purebred puppy and then trying to get the rescue to actually return my calls, is pretty low (speaking from experience).

My dogs aren't just dogs, they're my spoiled pets, but they're not humans either. I would never let that happen. There is a hierarchy in our family pack and our dogs should never consider themselves as humans. They are actually below the cats too.

At what point did it become my responsibility to fix and compensate for everyone else's screw ups? I will help when I can, but I refuse to feel obligated.

 

[schellie69]

All of my dogs and cats are rescues in one way or another, taken in abused or adopted from the pound. I have pure breed dogs and mutts I love them all for who they are. I have also adopted a female from a puppy mill who had stopped having puppies she stayed under tables and had a hard time learning that people where nice, she lived her last few years in a family and learned that petting was very nice, I will still take in animals weather from the pound or from a person who can't or won't take care of their pet. I have fixed my animals. i also do not blame someone for buying a dog or cat from a breeder those animals have their place also. But do got to your local shelter you might be surprised what you find.

 

[NewChkMom]

I have one of each. I researched and found my wonderful Cesky Terrier. Our beautiful Great Pyrenees came from a "BIG DOG" rescue and is not a pure breed. We researched the Great Pyrs, too. I was lucky enough to find a rescue organization that takes in dogs from "kill" shelters, spays/neuters, microchips, vaccinates, and takes care of any ailments that the dogs might be suffering from.

I think the point is: when you get a dog (whether you buy, adopt, take in a stray, etc) that you take care of that animal for it's entire life. You feed them, care for them, get them medical attention if necessary, and so on. A pet is a responsibility, not a disposable commodity.

I have lots of pets, and with each of them I accept the responsibility for their well being. Period.

 

[isadream]

Actually I have never seen a pug in our animal shelter here or nor have I heard of one--Yes it could happen but chances are slim. I might have a touch of luck finding a puggle or some kind of mixed pug but chances of getting a puppy are slim and unfortunately I was one of those kids who was bitten by a dog who didn't bite. So as a result I refuse to have a large adult dog of unknown breeding or aggressive breeding around my child. Unfortunately most pound dogs in my area are pit, chow or lab mixes and most are older puppies to adults. Not to mention the fact that they have actually adopted out 2 animals that were rabid from the shelter. Just as you need your chickens to get along and therefore you do not want fighting chickens I have to have a dog that is safe around children and livestock. Its just a chance I wont take. I have known too many ppl who adopt a dog who is great in the shelter (because the dog is scared and not showing its true personality) only to take it home and a month later when the dog settles in there is a problem.

Also you say there is no way to hatch a pullets with out roos--actually there probably is a way but it would cost a fortune--however, don't you think you should purchase the roos that hatch with those hens to keep them from being killed? That is what you are suggesting I do--go out and adopt a shelter dog instead of buying what I want.

I cant do the quoting like you guys can but here is a cut/paste from your reply

It would be refreshing to hear someone say "you know what, it just IS more important for me to indulge my tastes and whims than to help give a dog a home, I mean you know they're just dogs they're not PEOPLE, they're euthanized reasonably humanely in most cases, so why should I care, I don't have to watch.

By purchasing only pullets you are indulging in your taste and whims and as a result little rooster chicks died. Please dont misunderstand I totally understand why you purchased the hens--its the same reason I purchased a pug puppy because we want what we wanted.

However I do not think I should be judged and called a dog killer because I indulged just as you should not be judged and called a chicken killer because you indulged.

 

[babyblue]

I 100% agree with you dream.