The United States is going to attack Assad in Syria?

[rebelcowboysnb]

The US empire is on its way down, the war profiteers are just trying to get one last payday...

The sooner we fall, the better for both us an the rest of the world... The founders only wanted the states to work together for protection. Then never expected what we have now.

 

[Teery]

Building infrastructure in the United States could be done for much less than is spent on the military. And creating manufacturing and jobs at home help reduce the debt.

Let's not wish for the collapse of the United States. Let's work to prevent it.

It is a mathematical certainty the U.S. will default on its debt and/or will hyper-inflate the dollar to prevent a default. It has nothing to do with wishing for anything..or bringing MFG jobs back..we are beyond fixing it.The debt is on the books....The best that can occur is kicking the can down the road and buying more time..the politicians will do just that until the road ends as there is no fixing the problem under current law. A complete restructure of government is needed which cannot occur until it collapses...We have a few more years IMHO...3 to 5 years before you start really feeling the crunch..

 

[Teery]

The US empire is on its way down, the war profiteers are just trying to get one last payday...

The sooner we fall, the better for both us an the rest of the world... The founders only wanted the states to work together for protection. Then never expected what we have now.

Agreed...but when it falls, there is going to be an angry public....maybe a starving one as well..lets hope not...

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Only ones I worry about is the elderly an the badly disabled. People that work for a living will be fine.

 

[Beaky Buzzard]

Only ones I worry about is the elderly an the badly disabled. People that work for a living will be fine.

not when those who don't work come to take your stuff and kill you while they are at it......

 

[Teery]

Building infrastructure in the United States could be done for much less than is spent on the military. And creating manufacturing and jobs at home help reduce the debt.

Let's not wish for the collapse of the United States. Let's work to prevent it.

Let me explain this a little better. Lets start with "mandatory spending". Mandatory spending only includes Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt. Under current law, the U.S. is required to fund / pay for these items. It is mandatory...Discretionary spending is everything else...military, education, welfare, etc.

Mandatory spending cost the U.S. 2.9 trillion dollars a year. The government tax and other revenue generated annually (and this varies a little) is about 3 trillion dollars average. That leaves the U.S. government 100 billion. Baby Boomers are retiring..so mandatory spending costs will continue to rise.

Now where is the money going to come from to create jobs and build infrastructure? It will have to come from borrowing...As it is, the U.S. can never balance the books without borrowing. What is the magic debt number? And when we hit that number, then what?

Bringing jobs back to the U.S. is not going to solve the debt problem..Spending cuts or raising taxes is not going to solve the debt problem. The debt is on the books...Did you know that 1 trillion seconds ago would put you back in time by over 32,000 years? In other words, if we printed 1 trillion one dollar bills every second, it would take us over 32,000 years to print...Now multiply that by 17 and you are talking some real debt numbers....

 

[Teery]

not when those who don't work come to take your stuff and kill you while they are at it......

Historically, governments do survive hyper-inflation / default..Not in there current form though...

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Not to worried about that ether... I live in a state where most of the population is armed..

 

[Teery]

Not to worried about that ether... I live in a state where most of the population is armed..

I spent 4 years as a U.S. Marine and was raised as one of the most patriotic Americans anyone has ever seen...But watching what the politicians have done with this country over the last 30 years, you can have it....I plan to expatriate when my wife retires in a couple of years..Selling everything and leaving...I just hope the U.S. can hold it together a couple of more years...They should..politicians are masters at deception...

 

[ClucksAndPeeps]

not when those who don't work come to take your stuff and kill you while they are at it......