The WORST bumble-foot, ever?

[purpletree23]

utasol....where there is one neglected chicken there might be more, and then again the others might be just fine. If the breeder made an honest mistake he/she shouldn't mind a visit from someone checking on the welfare of the animals he/she cares for.

The majority of the breeders are wonderful but there is always a handful that have their animals living in deplorable conditions to make the almighty buck. This rooster had a terrible smell when the box was opened. I would think that the breeder had to know something was wrong.

If a breeder houses their birds properly, gives them proper nourishment and cleans the cages once in a while they should not hesitate to sell their stock to a BYC'r. If they DON'T take care of them then they don't have to sell to us and can sell their stock someplace else.

I reread the entire post and some of the owners remarks were "smelly, hock leaking pus and stinks in more ways than one.' Feather and mountain man said 'hates some people that use animals for profit without any ethics in animal health or customer service.'

Out of all the posts you are the only one who is defending the breeder. Many of the people who posted on this thread would like to see him checked out by authorities...just like me. Animals don't have a voice. We have to do it for them.

 

[ultasol]

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Sigh. Typical. Sorry, but I keep my birds healthy and I wouldn't want the SPCA poking around my property. Sorry,.. calling animal control is not a benign move. Unless I saw deplorable living conditions or the bird came coated in feces I wouldn't call. Look, the feathers are in good condition, the bird is in good weight. Really, the SPCA check on food and water status, and obviously this bird wasn't starved or dehydrated.

Frankly, knowing your attitude on this, I would never knowingly sell to you. I believe the breeder said he didn't notice. Feather and mountain man is making an assumption about this breeder as are you. Other comments made here have included stuff about birds should never be kept on wire (which is bunk,.. there are reasons to do so).

I will gladly be the only one defending the breeder, because I've been to the farms of multiple people who raise birds to show. When you have more birds than just a backyard flock, they often can't be handled daily and while they are fed/watered and you care about the health status, small problems often slip by. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be made right, but, in the same breath, there is no reason to call animal control.

Let's see here- generalization made because one bird arrived in good weight, good feather, but with a wound which the breeder says he didn't notice. Didn't another bird get purchased too (a hen?) and if so, I'm assuming the hen is healthy?

Perhaps we should call the SPCA when a bird arrives with a mite or two? What about when people get boxes of hatchery chicks and half are DOA, or a bunch die within a day or two?

I'm not saying the breeder is entirely right, he's not, but it's a rather extreme action to start reporting people to authorities, which you seem to think is a benign action. Reporting someone to the authorities is not a small deal where a breeder should be happy to have the authorities come over. Sheesh. If you want me to share this darn thread I will gladly get other people jumping in and commenting, but I'd rather not.

Heather's done a good job with this bird, and it's a pity he ended up with a sore hock, but it's not abuse.

 

[onthespot]

The bird could have been outside, and dry scabbed when he picked him up to ship him, and after two or three days in a box, it gets pretty "close" in those things, and a large bird could really soil the shavings, and what was a dry scab could get moist and smelly after a few days and be in much different condition than when he was shipped. I too am not making excuses for the condition of the bird, but I'm just saying... things change over three days in a small cardboard box, humidity, moisture, not able to move, dust bathe, could have tipped it over the edge in transit.
FWIW, my birds are kept in open air chain link runs, completely roofed over, and I don't have any with bumblefoot or scabby hocks, just one roo with a mystery sore leg that is isolated from the others to see what happens with him. I think he tore a ligament on the innner side of his leg somehow.

 

[purpletree23]

Sigh. Typical. Sorry, but I keep my birds healthy and I wouldn't want the SPCA poking around my property. Sorry,.. calling animal control is not a benign move. Unless I saw deplorable living conditions or the bird came coated in feces I wouldn't call. Look, the feathers are in good condition, the bird is in good weight. Really, the SPCA check on food and water status, and obviously this bird wasn't starved or dehydrated.

Frankly, knowing your attitude on this, I would never knowingly sell to you. I believe the breeder said he didn't notice. Feather and mountain man is making an assumption about this breeder as are you. Other comments made here have included stuff about birds should never be kept on wire (which is bunk,.. there are reasons to do so).

I will gladly be the only one defending the breeder, because I've been to the farms of multiple people who raise birds to show. When you have more birds than just a backyard flock, they often can't be handled daily and while they are fed/watered and you care about the health status, small problems often slip by. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be made right, but, in the same breath, there is no reason to call animal control.

Let's see here- generalization made because one bird arrived in good weight, good feather, but with a wound which the breeder says he didn't notice. Didn't another bird get purchased too (a hen?) and if so, I'm assuming the hen is healthy?

Perhaps we should call the SPCA when a bird arrives with a mite or two? What about when people get boxes of hatchery chicks and half are DOA, or a bunch die within a day or two?

I'm not saying the breeder is entirely right, he's not, but it's a rather extreme action to start reporting people to authorities, which you seem to think is a benign action. Reporting someone to the authorities is not a small deal where a breeder should be happy to have the authorities come over. Sheesh. If you want me to share this darn thread I will gladly get other people jumping in and commenting, but I'd rather not.

Heather's done a good job with this bird, and it's a pity he ended up with a sore hock, but it's not abuse.


YAWN

 

[hallerlake]

So, Heather, how is your roo today?

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

I'm actually over in Seattle for a 4 day weekend of shopping, eat good food and relaxing.

When I left, he was doing well. Very active, feeding/drinking and crowing. He LOVES his Cheerios! My MIL is taking care of him. I decided to leave him unwrapped...because I was worried about the bandage slipping and causing an issue. My MIL said she'll put some topical meds on him....

 

[kstaven]

One word of warning here folks. Most of you have violated BYC rules in this thread. This part of the forum is for helping people with problems. It is NOT for bashing bird owners or breeders or starting a witch hunt.

Closed at the OP's request.

Kurtis
Moderator