The Wyandotte Thread

[Texasmja]

but my Chocolate roo is dancing to the wrong gender...

LOL

 

[jockeyeba]

That roo is Black laced Red, But the difference in his primary feather color and his other deeper red color might be a problem, I am not sure, maybe Ki4got could clear it up, She knows genetics. LOL


But he is very pretty none the less, And You could show him as golden lace I think. And I do not think he is the brother or sister to the other, unless the parent stock has brassyness or goldenlaced birds in it...But still the difference in the color of red or gold is great...

If you bred them, Might darken the coloring, I tend to like the color darker, but thats just me.

Thanks for the info, I emailed Duane Urch today (that's where Ruth Caron's original stock started) asking his opinion I'm just calling her his sister because we got them at 2 weeks old along with 2 others that turned out BLR. Thanks for the compliment he is a beauty but is mean to the White Rock hens I just put in with him & the 3 other Dottes (1 of the BLR's is a roo too) Hopefully Ki4got will reply too

 

[jockeyeba]

The second picture looks like a black laced red, he's very pretty!

Thanks Bleenie but he is being really mean to the 5 White Rock hens I just put in with him & the Dottes-2 pullets & another roo.

 

[NanaKat]

The second picture looks like a black laced red, he's very pretty!

Thanks Bleenie but he is being really mean to the 5 White Rock hens I just put in with him & the Dottes-2 pullets & another roo.

Try putting him in a pen with a few matronly hens. They will teach him some gentile manners very quickly. The matrons won't hurt him but he will get the message. Should take a week or two.

 

[jockeyeba]

The second picture looks like a black laced red, he's very pretty!

Thanks Bleenie but he is being really mean to the 5 White Rock hens I just put in with him & the Dottes-2 pullets & another roo.

Try putting him in a pen with a few matronly hens. They will teach him some gentile manners very quickly. The matrons won't hurt him but he will get the message. Should take a week or two.

The only older hens I have are American Game's & I'm sure they would put him in his place lol but tonight when I locked them in the coop there was no fighting of any kind maybe they've settled down. I have no idea how old the WR's are, we rescued them.

 

[Texasmja]

typical columbian (white base with black markings) is silver based.

Thank you that is what I wanted to know.

 

[DMRippy]

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I thought that too because you need silver based hens for some sexlink crosses and columbian is one you can use.

 

[ki4got]

That roo is Black laced Red, But the difference in his primary feather color and his other deeper red color might be a problem, I am not sure, maybe Ki4got could clear it up, She knows genetics. LOL


But he is very pretty none the less, And You could show him as golden lace I think. And I do not think he is the brother or sister to the other, unless the parent stock has brassyness or goldenlaced birds in it...But still the difference in the color of red or gold is great...

If you bred them, Might darken the coloring, I tend to like the color darker, but thats just me.

well, if he's truly RED, like the BLRW, then breeding him to splash or blue girls would result in some nicely colored chicks, IMO. but if your goal is gold laced, use him with that gold girl. if he's homozygous for mahogany, then all the chicks will be darker red too, but breeding them back to gold, or to each other, keep only the lighter colored for future breeding/showing. but always choose for type first, color last, or all you're going to have are nicely marked mediocre birds that are 'kinda' wyandotte-ish.

 

[Countrypunk92]

Thanks for fixing that KI4got.

 

[Chickenhill]

Chickenhill, yes I would be the same fellow from showbird of the same name.
I bought my first two pairs of Silver Pencilled in the spring of 1994. All of my birds can trace their lineage back to those original four birds. My biggest advice is always breed for vigor. One of the biggest problems I have had thru the years would be a decrease in egg laying and a decrease in hardiness. If you have two birds and you have one that looks fantastic but isnt real thrifty and another that looks pretty good but is energetic....pick the energetic one. I got caught up for a few years of hatching out great looking birds that would not procreate. The cross to the LF was advantageous not only for the clarity of color but in the amount of vigor that was gained by my birds thru that cross. I got much more active birds with increased fertility and egg laying ability. Unfortunately I lost all of those birds except three about 4 years ago. It has been a slow and painful process to recover what was left of my original bloodline. My numbers are increasing slowly. I have one good young male that I hatched last spring and several good young pullets along with my SP hens. Altogether I will probably have that male over about 6 or 7 females. I may break that up and use my second best young cockerel upon his mothers and use the best cockerel against his sisters. I had a great improvement in the duskiness this year also. I should be obtaining a SP trio from Jerry this winter and may intermingle my birds with his bloodline to increase diversity and keep from inbreeding too much.
I have some really great pictures of some of my birds from way back when but I need to scan them one of these days. When bred correctly they are truly one of the most beautiful breeds. You will find also that there are some SP that are definetely "male" lined birds and others that are "female" lined birds. What I mean is that some pairings will give you exhibition males and some matings will give you exhibition males, also known as the practice called "Double Mating".
I am by no means an expert on SP Wyandotte bantams, I would just have the dubious distinction of having raised them for many years.
I agree with your statement about Partridge LF, please keep them going they are gorgeous. Wish someone would take on GL and Colombian LF as well. I am trying to keep the Buff's going.
John

John,

Thank you for the sound advice. Sorry to hear of the loss of your birds. It is painful and slow to start over. I think everyone has been there that has had chickens for any length of time. Probably the only good thing about is, you know what you are looking for in getting them back up to speed. Sounds as though you are making good progress, it builds more quickly after you can get a few really good ones. The cross on the large fowl, I don't think you can go wrong with that. I have the rest of my life to play with it and get them right. I bred miniature horses for years so get the understanding how the process works in future generations. The more I goof with Jerry's birds the more I respect him.
Good for you, jumping in there with the buffs. There are some nice Colombians out there, someone cares! The GL seem to be going backwards. It seems folks are confusing, I was right along with that crowd until about a year ago, the GL with the Back laced.
So, with the SP there being a male and female line. It would be nice to hear what you feel distinguishes the difference in the lines.