The Wyandotte Thread

That roo is Black laced Red, But the difference in his primary feather color and his other deeper red color might be a problem, I am not sure, maybe Ki4got could clear it up, She knows genetics. LOL



But he is very pretty none the less, And You could show him as golden lace I think. And I do not think he is the brother or sister to the other, unless the parent stock has brassyness or goldenlaced birds in it...But still the difference in the color of red or gold is great...


If you bred them, Might darken the coloring, I tend to like the color darker, but thats just me.

well, if he's truly RED, like the BLRW, then breeding him to splash or blue girls would result in some nicely colored chicks, IMO.  but if your goal is gold laced, use him with that gold girl.  if he's homozygous for mahogany, then all the chicks will be darker red too, but breeding them back to gold, or to each other, keep only the lighter colored for future breeding/showing. but always choose for type first, color last, or all you're going to have are nicely marked mediocre birds that are 'kinda' wyandotte-ish.
:hugs Thanks for the knowledge
 
Chickenhill,
It was unfortunate to lose those birds but as you mentioned if you havent had something catastrophic happen with your birds you just havent been raising them long enough haha. Stuff happens and you move on the best you can.
I kind of agree with you on the GL LF, we have dedicated breeders working diligently with most all of the other LF varieties but not alot of focus spent on the GL. Undoubtedly it would be because they would take at least 5 years work with outcrosses to SL to improve the size and type dramatically. Maybe they will strike someones fancy.....
As for the differences in the male and females lines of SP, I will try and explain it the best I can.

Male Line
  • Females should be dark in overall look. Their neck feathers should be more towards the shade of grey, rather than white. Also, when it comes to the pencilling in their tails it should be more indistinct instead of the sharp contrast of the triple lacing.
  • Males should have a breast that is solid black. Saddle and neck feather color should be normal and be very typey almost to the point of being too large.
  • Selecting proper females is the key to producing exhibition quality males.

Female Line
  • Females need to be brightly colored with particular clarity near the neck, also with distinct pencilling of light color on their backs to tail.
  • Males are the key, they must be brightly colored also with white ticking in their solid black breast feathers.
  • Selecting proper males is the key to producing exhibition quality females.

Hope this makes sense and is not just stating the obvious.
John
 
Chickenhill,
It was unfortunate to lose those birds but as you mentioned if you havent had something catastrophic happen with your birds you just havent been raising them long enough haha. Stuff happens and you move on the best you can.
I kind of agree with you on the GL LF, we have dedicated breeders working diligently with most all of the other LF varieties but not alot of focus spent on the GL. Undoubtedly it would be because they would take at least 5 years work with outcrosses to SL to improve the size and type dramatically. Maybe they will strike someones fancy.....
As for the differences in the male and females lines of SP, I will try and explain it the best I can.

Male Line
  • Females should be dark in overall look. Their neck feathers should be more towards the shade of grey, rather than white. Also, when it comes to the pencilling in their tails it should be more indistinct instead of the sharp contrast of the triple lacing.
  • Males should have a breast that is solid black. Saddle and neck feather color should be normal and be very typey almost to the point of being too large.
  • Selecting proper females is the key to producing exhibition quality males.

Female Line
  • Females need to be brightly colored with particular clarity near the neck, also with distinct pencilling of light color on their backs to tail.
  • Males are the key, they must be brightly colored also with white ticking in their solid black breast feathers.
  • Selecting proper males is the key to producing exhibition quality females.

Hope this makes sense and is not just stating the obvious.
John
Thank you! I will def. use this knowledge when breeding my SP bantams.
 
Hard to tell honestly from the photos without looking at them up close. My first impression is they would be a male line. Mainly because of the dark overall color of all of the birds. Would have to inspect the females to see how well their pencilling is to be for sure.

Here is an example of what a female line looks like. See how brightly colored her neck is and there is less of an overcast of grey all over? This is a bird from England so dont get too excited everybody, haha!
John


LM
 

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