The Wyandotte Thread

[Texasmja]

OMG what a cross that will be! I wanna see when they are born. I so miss my babies that was my favorite part!

I haven't been breeding a lot because of the economy and the horse market. I am really looking forward to loving all over those foals, I hope the filly fairy visits my farm this year. And I need to start setting up the mares to breed to my show stallion who is home now, time to start calculating numbers and coordinating pedigree crosses. I have some older mares that don't have many foals left to produce, so it is tough deciding who will make the list this year in the breeding barn.

 

[Texasmja]

OMG what a cross that will be! I wanna see when they are born. I so miss my babies that was my favorite part!

Yeah, but I know you don't miss the SLEEPLESS nights! I have two maiden mares this year, they are NOT fun to foal out. I pray they are good to me.

 

[jockeyeba]

My babies are grow'in up....
Hope they don't leave home...

 

[jockeyeba]

Heres a DARK blue for yah..

Love the pullet

 

[Countrypunk92]

Green sheen is reflective of the highest quality feather. He is fancy. Where did that white feather come from, lol?

That is just down, Most roos have them whitish around their tails. Nothing to worry about.

 

[PeakyBeaky]

Does anyone keep pedigrees on their birds? If so, what database program do you use?

Reason I ask is I am a pedigree junkie and I keep a record on all of my breeding stock no matter the species. My records are detailed, because I keep track of inbreeding coefficients, that way I can then calculate matched pairs of chromosomes. This information gives me the numbers to know where hybrid vigor stands on each animal. If I have a breeding issue I can trace the line and know where it originated and where to go. By knowing the IBC number I can calculate the best crosses. The higher the IBC the more that animal will stamp their get with all their traits, whether they are good or bad they will be dominate.

We purchased a database program online a few years ago. It's ok, but crashes alot. So I've been doing it by hand. It's best to keep track of birds from hatching on...we hatch too many birds to remeber all the details.

 

[ki4got]

Does anyone keep pedigrees on their birds? If so, what database program do you use?

Reason I ask is I am a pedigree junkie and I keep a record on all of my breeding stock no matter the species. My records are detailed, because I keep track of inbreeding coefficients, that way I can then calculate matched pairs of chromosomes. This information gives me the numbers to know where hybrid vigor stands on each animal. If I have a breeding issue I can trace the line and know where it originated and where to go. By knowing the IBC number I can calculate the best crosses. The higher the IBC the more that animal will stamp their get with all their traits, whether they are good or bad they will be dominate.

i do for my dorkings, but i just use MS Excel... since i have no lineage info on my primary breeding stock brought in as eggs/chicks, it's not so detailed. inbreeding has been a problem with the breed, causing problems like low hatchability (tho fertility is excellent), so i've been outcrossing my silver greys with my reds to try and eliminate that somewhat.

re: fertility in wyandottes that was talked about a while back, i now have proof that my LF BLRW roo is doing his job... just not with the right girls. LOL

i just hatched out 5 dorking eggs, to find rose combs on wyandotte shaped babies. interesting to note, the wyandotte must have a gene that inhibits 5 toes... in every other cross i've always had the extra toe, but these chicks only 1 has it, on one foot.

and no, i'm not going to work on a blr-dorking... LOL

 

[ki4got]

Quote: i miss the anticipation and excitement of foaling, working with new babies, and all, but i do NOT miss having to find homes for them... i'm agonizing about just leasing out one mare right now (my first baby of 17 years old), simply to be used as a lesson horse. she needs a job and is getting into trouble because i'm not riding much anymore. i'd love to breed her, since her mother's getting older (26) but can't find a stallion i like within reasonable distances... and the friesian people down the road don't want to outcross to my Morgan girl either. (that's probably my favorite cross of all!)

handling my stallions, i have no problem breeding to other peoples' mares tho... as long as i don't have to worry about finding them homes later LOL

chickens are so much easier... hatch them out, keep the good ones, and either sell or eat the rest.

 

[Chickenhill]

Yeah, but I know you don't miss the SLEEPLESS nights! I have two maiden mares this year, they are NOT fun to foal out. I pray they are good to me.

It wasn't to bad... I had web cams in all the stalls and beepers on all their halters. Some of my friends had web cams to so we traded off watching at night so the other could sleep. The excitement kept me up more than they did! The curiosity of waiting to see the cross about killed me for all the months that dragged by waiting waiting. lol Kiss a nose and scratch a hinney for me

 

[Texasmja]

i do for my dorkings, but i just use MS Excel... since i have no lineage info on my primary breeding stock brought in as eggs/chicks, it's not so detailed. inbreeding has been a problem with the breed, causing problems like low hatchability (tho fertility is excellent), so i've been outcrossing my silver greys with my reds to try and eliminate that somewhat.

In inbreeding if to long continued, results in loss of vitality, which is indicated by increased infertility, slower growth, smaller size, delayed feathering in the young, and after a time by weak and twisted feathers in adults.

Out-crossing when a condition is found to exist is the only remedy. This consists of introducing blood of some other line or strain into the flock. One way would be to use a male of an unrelated line (2) on the females of the first line (1) and the females of their offspring crossed back to the males of the first line (1). By introducing the new blood you increase hybrid vigor in the offspring. Hybrid vigor is the best genes expressed from both parents, increased size and fertility.