The Wyandotte Thread

[Countrypunk92]

I am not sure exactly, Maybe someone much older and wiser can shine some light on this. Lol

 

[ki4got]

ok computer hiccupped, but i like the wording on my second post better... see below.

 

[DMRippy]

Type is always first, color and the such are secondary.

ki4got is right though... I do TRY to pick for the important color stuff and type. I like to work on the package as much as I can, but with some breeds you need type more than color. The mahogany is IMPORTANT in BLRW.....

 

[ki4got]

Quote: Yes and No...

Yes, you generally would set type first then worry about the fine points in color/pattern, BUT the colors have to be in place first. otherwise you're setting type on an incorrectly colored bird.

BLRW requires Mahogany to deepen the red and minimize shafting, blue (black and splash are to be expected as well), and proper lacing (incomplete lacing may be worked with but is much harder to set than other varieties, since it incorporates 3 different mutations to be correct). so with blrw you're looking at basically 5 mutations that should be present, 3 of which should be homozygous, blue is negotiable, and at the beginning, as long as at least 1 bird has the mahogany genes, and you select only mahogany carriers for further breeding, then that's debatable too.

Mahogany is a dominant gene, so selection would be easy, but understand that the red will always be deeper on black based birds and much paler on splash birds, given the diluting nature of the blue/splash gene. so that being said i would probably base my blrw line on black and blue laced, and pass on the splash, at least until type is set.

without the mahogany, the best you're likely to have is a nice blue laced gold. it'd be like breeding perfectly typed chestnut/sorrel cutting horses and expecting a bay offspring. it ain't gonna happen, since bay is dominant to chestnut/sorrel, and at least one parent has to BE bay to pass the trait along to it's offspring.

 

[Texasmja]

With respect to all and thank you for your honest opinions very much. The things that bug me most are tail sets, long backs, and then necks, no matter how beautifully colored a bird is. I may be all wrong...but my gut is telling me go for shape type shape. I know that mahogany is important in blr, but I will not be happy if the body is whacked out looking. I know a bit about genetics, just not a lot about chicken genes, I am learning new stuff everyday.

 

[Texasmja]

Now equine genetics is my specialty. LOL

There are two colors in horses red and black, everything else is colored by a modifying gene.

A bay horse is a black horse that is carrying the [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Agouti. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Agouti can be carried by red horses but is not expressed. It is only expressed on a black horse.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Red - ee
Black Ee, EE
Bay - Ee+Aa, Ee+AA, EE+Aa, EE+AA[/FONT]

 

[DMRippy]

I am not positive but I think it is the same in Chickens too......

 

[Texasmja]

I am not positive but I think it is the same in Chickens too......

Pretty sure that is correct. At least from what I have studied.

 

[Countrypunk92]

Here is some of the younger BLRW.
Splash Roo-8 weeks in this pic


Another lighter splash-6 weeks

So far my fav, Roo

Straight combed roo

Black laced pullet

Black laced pullet



This guy was hard to catch, and wouldnt pose....He is bashfull.. LOL so sorry for the bad pics...He is nice, but smaller then my other blue.



Sorry about the poo. LOL

 

[Countrypunk92]

Thanks Ki4got. that makes it clearer.