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They Got My Chickens....in My House!!!!!!!!!!(more story on Page3)
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That whole thing is just scary.
We have renters next door (with a very irresponsible landlord) who have several VERY large dogs and other large dogs who stay over with them frequently, including a couple very active pit bulls. When they first moved here, the dogs jumped the front fence and went after anything that moved for the first few months. The male pit bull has gotten most of his body over our 5' fence when my babies are out in the backyard. The chickens are in a VERY secure run, but it terrifies me. I can't let the birds out to play and run, and I can't let the children be out in their own fenced secure backyard. It's ridiculous!!! The owner insists that the dogs are just "playful", but the way predatory carnivores "play" is not acceptable behavior with children or other people's pets. The previous tenants' children destroyed the fence, which the landlords are refusing to fix or replace. The current tenants won't fix it (which makes sense - it's not their fence or their damage) but that leaves a problem: dogs that don't behave in a way that is safe for my kids or birds.
Whoo... sorry.
Anywho, if more than that, they got INTO YOUR HOUSE, firmer action needs to be taken to make sure that the necessary changes happen to make your property safe. Your property is your job, them keeping control of their animals is their job. I don't think anyone needs to be harsh or vindictive, but don't let it blow over without some real change happening to prevent a re-occurrence.
My two cents - take it for what it's worth.
We have renters next door (with a very irresponsible landlord) who have several VERY large dogs and other large dogs who stay over with them frequently, including a couple very active pit bulls. When they first moved here, the dogs jumped the front fence and went after anything that moved for the first few months. The male pit bull has gotten most of his body over our 5' fence when my babies are out in the backyard. The chickens are in a VERY secure run, but it terrifies me. I can't let the birds out to play and run, and I can't let the children be out in their own fenced secure backyard. It's ridiculous!!! The owner insists that the dogs are just "playful", but the way predatory carnivores "play" is not acceptable behavior with children or other people's pets. The previous tenants' children destroyed the fence, which the landlords are refusing to fix or replace. The current tenants won't fix it (which makes sense - it's not their fence or their damage) but that leaves a problem: dogs that don't behave in a way that is safe for my kids or birds.
Whoo... sorry.
Anywho, if more than that, they got INTO YOUR HOUSE, firmer action needs to be taken to make sure that the necessary changes happen to make your property safe. Your property is your job, them keeping control of their animals is their job. I don't think anyone needs to be harsh or vindictive, but don't let it blow over without some real change happening to prevent a re-occurrence.
My two cents - take it for what it's worth.
I have nothing but yikes and good luck to say.
However, this is really good thing that was said:
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However, this is really good thing that was said:
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I love the idea of a doggy door that activates from a sensor on the dog collar, but my 4 cats lose their collars pretty quickly. (I won't have a litter box in the house.)
Wow I just found this and that kinda freaks me out. If the neighbors don't do anything about it I would definitely report it. What if that had been one of your kids they attacked?
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The fence was inadequate for the dogs to begin with, I understand. I also am pretty sure the landlord felt the fence was adequate. So the renter returns the fence to it's original state, which is not enough to hold the dogs anyway...
There you have it. A lose/lose situation.
If the fence isn't enough to hold their dogs, they need to do something that will, chain them up, fortify the fence whatever.. my point was that renters in general aren't bad or lazy because they aren't going to shell out big bucks to make unnecessary improvements on property that isn't theirs... In this case the renters need to fix the fence to the point that their dogs can't get through, maybe that means repairs or even replacing parts I don't know..
The idea that puppies could chew through 2 fences to get into another yard makes me think the biggest issue is the poor dogs being left out there way way too long anyway.
Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
The fence was inadequate for the dogs to begin with, I understand. I also am pretty sure the landlord felt the fence was adequate. So the renter returns the fence to it's original state, which is not enough to hold the dogs anyway...
There you have it. A lose/lose situation.
If the fence isn't enough to hold their dogs, they need to do something that will, chain them up, fortify the fence whatever.. my point was that renters in general aren't bad or lazy because they aren't going to shell out big bucks to make unnecessary improvements on property that isn't theirs... In this case the renters need to fix the fence to the point that their dogs can't get through, maybe that means repairs or even replacing parts I don't know..
The idea that puppies could chew through 2 fences to get into another yard makes me think the biggest issue is the poor dogs being left out there way way too long anyway.
Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
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If the fence isn't enough to hold their dogs, they need to do something that will, chain them up, fortify the fence whatever.. my point was that renters in general aren't bad or lazy because they aren't going to shell out big bucks to make unnecessary improvements on property that isn't theirs... In this case the renters need to fix the fence to the point that their dogs can't get through, maybe that means repairs or even replacing parts I don't know..
The idea that puppies could chew through 2 fences to get into another yard makes me think the biggest issue is the poor dogs being left out there way way too long anyway.
Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
If the fence isn't enough to hold their dogs, they need to do something that will, chain them up, fortify the fence whatever.. my point was that renters in general aren't bad or lazy because they aren't going to shell out big bucks to make unnecessary improvements on property that isn't theirs... In this case the renters need to fix the fence to the point that their dogs can't get through, maybe that means repairs or even replacing parts I don't know..
The idea that puppies could chew through 2 fences to get into another yard makes me think the biggest issue is the poor dogs being left out there way way too long anyway.
Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
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Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
Please read again as I NEVER said you said or didn't say anything. I was just making a statement and referencing it to the conversation about fences. No need to get all upset with me!
Just have to say as a property manager for multiple properties that it is not the landlords responsibility to provide you with a fence even if they accept pets. We have fences on our property and do replace rotted posts etc... but if a renter's dog tears up pickets etc... then the tenant gets a letter letting them know to fix it or we will come fix it and send them a bill.
I have been on both sides of the rental situation. There are some bad landlords out there but there are alot of bad renters as well. Some people think that landlords are responsible for every little mishap and fail to read their contracts in full. Had a lady plug up her sink with a bunch of pasta and rice. We had to go unplug it on a Sunday because she refused to call a plumber. Needless to say we sent her a bill and she blew a gasket and refuses to pay. Oh she will pay though. It will come out of her deposit.
For those dealing with bad landlords check with your local housing authority or such. Most states have laws governing tenant's rights.
umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
Please read again as I NEVER said you said or didn't say anything. I was just making a statement and referencing it to the conversation about fences. No need to get all upset with me!
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umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
Please read again as I NEVER said you said or didn't say anything. I was just making a statement and referencing it to the conversation about fences. No need to get all upset with me!
not upset, just conrfused, confused to the point I had to reread everything I said...Ok lets fight about how much we agree with each other!
Oh, PS just wanted to mention that there are some awesome landlords out there. We had one for 3 years, lived above her, she was the nicest nicest lady. Practically family...I know they exist like the rare good tenant!
umm I never said just because a renter has a pet the landlord must provide a fence my point was a renter is NOT required to provide their own fence either but they aren't absolved from keeping their animals in the yard regardless. If there is a fence and a renter's dog destroys it then yeah the renter needs to pay for it...we are agreeing on the same thing!
Please read again as I NEVER said you said or didn't say anything. I was just making a statement and referencing it to the conversation about fences. No need to get all upset with me!
not upset, just conrfused, confused to the point I had to reread everything I said...Ok lets fight about how much we agree with each other!
Oh, PS just wanted to mention that there are some awesome landlords out there. We had one for 3 years, lived above her, she was the nicest nicest lady. Practically family...I know they exist like the rare good tenant!
Just too crazy!! Hope you praised your dog for waking you up to save the babies. So reliefed to have a happy ending to a horrible situation. I would definately do a fort knox on your house and yard. What a shame.
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